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1988 Responses to “Comments And Questions”

  1. 1988
    Brennan, Burnaby

    It would be great if a “Search” function was added to the Comments and Questions page, so that people could find information easier. This could help people find the answer to the same question which has been answered previously.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Thanks Brennan, we are currently conducting a review and upgrade of our main web page. This will include a search function for the comments page. Thanks for your suggestion.

     Response by A/Sgt. Jantzen

  2. 1987
    Vern, Saanich

    Are there regulations prohibiting a windshield-mounted GPS screen, or would it be covered by due care and attention regulations if an incident occurs? Thanks very much. 

    Saanich Police Response:

    Thanks Vern. The use of a GPS would be regulated by the sections governing ‘Distracted Driving’ akin to the use of a cell phone. You cannot touch it while driving but the auditory functions would be fine. A suggestion might be to mount it on the passenger side of the vehicle then it would not block your vision either.  

    Response by A/Sgt. Jantzen

     

  3. 1986
    Barry,Colwood

    This is for #1979 Dave of Langford in regards to Mckenzie Ave. to the Trans Canada Hwy. You are wasting your time trying to get anything done there as I have been trying to have something done for the last 8 years and nothing gets done. I have called the Saanich police, talked with the Int. Police Squad and was assured by both that something would get done and still nothing. According to ICBC, this is the 4th. worst stretch on the island for crashes. Just this week, Saanich had radar on the Pat Bay at Quadra and at Royal Oak and an interview was done with one officer who said if we can save one person from getting hurt or killed it would be worth it. My question has always been; “Why only target the speeders? These people on Mckenzie are just as much a hazard as any speeder is.”If you can free up 4 or 5 officers to do radar, why not for Mckenzie? If the police were at Mckenzie and Burnside, they would need 5 officers writing tickets none stop. The money generated they on the illegal turns would more than pay for the attending officers, the ticket books required and the number of pens required to write all the tickets. But then they would probably loose some officers to WCB with wrist injuries from all the writing.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Barry, thank you for your concerns. Please contact our Traffic Safety Unit Sergeant Mike Barkley. He would be happy to discuss this with you. Thank you.

    Response by A/Sgt. D. Jantzen

  4. 1985
    Cathy, Victoria

    Hi,

    If I have lost my drivers license and have been asked to produce it by an officer will I be given a fine or a grace period to produce it? It’s the long weekend and I can’t go to a Motor Vehicle’s office to replace it until Tuesday.

    Thanks for your time, this is a great site!

    Cathy

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Cathy,

    It is the individual officer’s discretion if they choose to issue you a Fail to Produce Driver’s Licence Violation Ticket or not.  It is best to go to the Motor Vehicle Branch as soon as possible after losing a Drivers Licence, not just to get an Interim DL but to report the lose incase someone else tries to use it.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  5. 1984
    Joan, Saanich

    Thank you for this website. I’ve read quite a bit of it and find your responses are honest and helpful.
    This may be a bit of an unusual question/comment and maybe it’s too broad for this site, but I thought I’d give it a try. I am the mom of a son in his early 20s who is (I think) generally a kind, helpful and positive young man. But, I find he is becoming increasingly alienated from the police. I don’t mean that he has personally had a lot of altercations (although there have been one or two). But I believe he (and many of his friends, apparently) are deeply affected by things like the Robert Dziekański case, the video of police restraint outside the Victoria night club, Bill Gillespie in Chemainus, etc. etc. As a result, they seem to be developing a strong belief that the police are out to get them (especially because they are young men), that they are threatened rather than protected by police. They seem to be genuinely afraid of the police, it seems, and believe they will be attacked or possibly shot at the slightest provocation. (one of his friends even likened the police to terrorists or the Taliban!) This seems to be translating into a belief that they don’t really have to respect the law, or that there is no reason to, because the police are bad and can’t be trusted, and the whole system is at fault. I am becoming increasingly alarmed by my son’s reactions and opinions, and, to be honest I can’t support any of the above mentioned situations and can’t really give him good explanations or answers when we discussed this. Since he was a little boy, I have tried to tell him that police are there to help him, that he can turn to them if he has a problem, but he obviously doesn’t believe this anymore. I have told him that I think these are isolated situations and that most police are helpful (that’s been my experience, anyway), but he is obviously not buying this and thinks I am the one who doesn’t get it. He recently had a situation where he felt he was wronged by the police just because he was a young man and when he described it to me, I had to agree…his experience definitely seemed different from what I (a middle aged woman) would have likely experienced in the same situation. I am wondering if we should make an official complaint or if that would really do any good. I question whether that is a useful process, or one that would leave him feeling even more alienated. So now for my question. Does the SPD have any suggestions as to how I might deal with this? Are there any programs for liaising with disaffected youth? or any plans to develop such programs? is anyone else observing this or concerned about it? I don’t think my son is in the minority, from what I learn from talking to his friends…and they are all nice kids, working or going to college, but, wow, do they ever have a different view of the police than I did when I was their age! If I could convince my son to do so, are there any police officers that would be willing to sit down with him and try to explain things from their perspective? Or really listen to his concerns? I don’t know if that would help, but it might. I am becoming increasingly concerned about what I feel is an escalating alienation/disrespect for police and the law that I see amongst my son and his friends. I don’t think this bodes well for the future and am looking for some solutions. Thanks for any ideas you might be able to offer. (his mom)

    Saanich Police Response:

    Thanks for your narrative regarding your son. One suggestion might be to contact the department and request to speak with our family and youth counsellor whose name is Corrina Craig. She may be better suited to provide some input into your concerns.  Thank you.

    Response by A/Sgt. D. Jantzen

     

  6. 1983
    A

    Hello,

    When does the legislation abolishing 2 for 1 credit for remanded to convicted persons come into play?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi A,

    The Bill (Bill C-25) eliminating the 2 for 1 “dead time” came into effect on February 22, 2010.  Charges that were sworn before that date are still grated the 2-1 time.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  7. 1982
    Diana, Saanich

    Can Saanich police take any effective action regarding the campsites gradually taking over Cuthbert Holmes Park? From none, to the occasional one well off the beaten track, there are at least 6 current campsites, most not even trying to be off the beaten track, and some very close to the movie theatre and the mall parking lot. I don’t object to the camping per se, but to the inevitable accompaniment of human waste, contaminated garbage, dangerous broken glass and drug-related paraphenalia.

    We realize that moving them on just creates a problem somewhere else, and have tried to be tolerant, but the problem is increasing, seemingly without check, and those of us who walk (and clean up after) our dogs are being gradually constricted into a smaller and smaller area so our dogs are not at risk from contaminated garbage, broken glass, etc.
    Today one of the campers called out not to leash our dogs on his account - he was “fine with dogs” he just didn’t like it when they [pooped] on “my space”. Actually the dogs were being leashed for their own protection - from his garbage! But his comment was telling - that particular bit of public space was “his” space as far as he was concerned!
    Most of us are, and have for years been, local residents/taxpayers, and many of us have nowhere else to take our dogs for exercise. We are in the park almost every day, fair weather and foul, sometimes twice a day, have been active in community clean-ups, and have tried very hard to turn a blind eye to an escalating problem, but are increasingly distressed (and some are angry) at the gradual loss of use of our once lovely park.
    It is unpleasant and unproductive, not to mention potentially dangerous for any of us to try and deal with the campers ourselves, we NEED some police intervention on a sufficiently regular basis to prevent the area becoming another Pandora Ave or Beacon Hill Park at its worst.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Diana,

    Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  Our Mountain Bike Squad members do conduct patrols of the Saanich Parks, but we do rely on the local resident knowledge to inform us of the problem camps.  I will notify our Mountain Bike Squad of the complaint for enhanced patrols of the area and I would recommend that you call in the camps when you feel they have become intolerable.  If there are six current camps in the park you should provide a written statement with a map of the camps so our members are able to find them easier.  You can either call in the complaint or attend our front counter.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD 

  8. 1981
    Beth

    Hello,

    A friend from Oregon state will be staying with me while she goes to UVic. She is here for 4 years to do an Undergrad. Her car and DL are both registered and licensed in Oregon. Does she need to change over the car’s plates and her DL? and if so, how long does she have? Thanks, Beth

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Beth,

    If your friend is staying in BC strictly as a “full-time student” then she does not have to obtain a BC drivers licence, but once she has becomes a “part time student” or a permanent resident of BC then she has 90 days to obtain a BC drivers licence.  Refer to Section 34 of the Motor Vehicle Act for the drivers licence laws.

    Regarding vehicle insurance please refer to Post #1973, because it has a similar question regarding how long a vehicle can be driven in BC without BC insurance.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  9. 1980
    John, Victoria

    Hi Are Sheriffs allowed to give traffic tickets? If they did witness a violation would they tell the police and then the police would send them a ticket? If a Sheriff testified, would they be more credible than a civilian?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John,

    I would recommend that you contact a local Sheriff’s Office for confirmation of their ability to issue a violation ticket, because I know that their authority on this topic is changing in various jurisdictions and I do not want to post incorrect information.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  10. 1979
    Dave, Langford

    This question is for the IRSU. Can I request that the IRSU watch a specific intersection? (On my way home from work) I travel south bound on Mackenzie, and while I wait in line to merge onto the TCH (the right hand lane) like the majority of the drivers, there are several others who ignore the process, they drive straight down the center lane and into the intersection to make an illegal right hand turn on to the TCH, instead of going straight through to Admirals like their lane is designed for. This blatant disrespect of their fellow commuters and disregard for the law is irritating to say the least. Can you please help my fellow commuters by looking out for these people and hopefully issuing them a nice expensive ticked to help with their inpatients.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Dave,

    I will pass your complaint to both our Traffc Safety Unit and IRSU for enhanced intersection enforcement.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  11. 1978
    Chris, Langford

    Hi. In response to post 1975.. If Sharon “googles” “Checklists for bomb threats”, she will have access to quite a few good check lists she can use.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Thanks for the additional information.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  12. 1977
    Sharon, Saanich

    Hello,
    Please advise if you have a check list of things to do in case of a phoned-in bomb threat to a company.
    Also, is it recommended to pull the fire alarm if there is a bomb threat over the phone?
    Thank you for your advice.

    Saanich Police Response:

    I would send an email to Cst Petra DORNBLUT, of our Crime Prevention Unit, and enquire with her.  Cst DORNBLUT is more likely to be aware if a form exists because of her expertise in Crime Prevention.  Cst DORNBLUT can be reached at pdornblut@saanichpolice.ca.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  13. 1976
    Jim , saanich

    Hi is there anything that can be done about a neighbour that constantly complains and makes complaints about ALL the neighbours around him . Myself and the rest of the neighbours are getting tired of his thinking that he can boss everyone on the street . Thank you for any help that you can give us . Jim

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jim,

    Unfortunately there isn’t too much you can do if the person is a property owner.  If the person is complaining to the police each police response is documented, so we will start to notice if a pattern is developing (weather the calls are founded or unfounded).  Have you or your neighbours attempted to speak with him.  If not I would start there, BUT it is important not to escalate the situation and not to start a yelling match.  If the situation starts to escalate then leave.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  14. 1975
    Neighbourly, Saanich

    Good afternoon,
    I am presently sitting inside my house and the smell of pot is wafting in through my open windows. It is the neighbours’ tenants that are smoking in the middle of the day (the landlords always seem to be out when they are doing this). I have spoken with the landlords who live upstairs with regards to this. They apparently claim to have spoken to them since it first occurred when they were found to have been smoking pot inside the house. The landlords have small children as do we. I am at a loss as to what to do since my neighbours don’t seem to want to do anything about it. What are my rights with regards to this? I do not want to have to speak to the tenants directly. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.
    Neighbourly neighbour

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Neighbourly.

    I believe a previous post, Post #1834, has the information you are looking for.  Cst DUKESHIRE outlines at the end of the post what police action is available to you.

    I hope that provides some assistance.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD 

  15. 1974
    Julia

    Most of us have seen the laser speed enforcement officers on the Mckenzie overpass targeting speeders heading into town. 99% of the time these are being hand held by the officers, what is the max distance they are trained to pull the trigger on a busy highway like this? and what precautions are taken to ensure the laser does not hit the eyes of the oncoming driver?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Julia,

    The hand held lasers that our police department use are rated for a distance not exceeding 1000 meters.  It does become dependant on who the operator is and how steady they can hold the speed detection device.  Obtaining a speed from over 500m is not unusual.  The laser eye safety rating on our speed detection units is FDA Class 1, which is the lowest risk to the public.  After speaking to one of our Traffic Safety Unit members he also confirmed that the laser works on direct reflection, meaning if the “beam” struck the windshield it would defect away from the motor vehicle.

    Hope that answers your questions.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  16. 1973
    John, Victoria

    I was just wondering how long one can keeping using out of province plates after moving here permanently. A couple down the road bought a house, moved out here and started working in town from Quebec 2.5 years ago and are still using the same plates using a phony address in Quebec to get insurance. The reasoning is the car is in such poor shape mechanically and structually that it would not pass a provincial inspection. Who would be the authority to contact to deal with this before a serious accident occurs.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John,

    A person who has moved to another city has 30days to change their insurance and if they are touring in British Columbia they have 6 months, as per Section 21 of the Motor Vehicle Act.  You would report this incident to the police department that polices the area where the Motor Vehicle Act violation is taking place. 

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD
     

  17. 1972
    Earson, Sannich

    Is it illegal to drive in bare feet?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Earson,

    The answer to your question is outlined in post #1915.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  18. 1971
    John, Victoria

    Hello,

    Is there a central authority for the regulation and safety of taxis? If I want to complain about bad driving who can I call?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John,

    You can report driving complaints involving taxi cabs to the local police department where the incident occurred.  It is important to remember that if you can obtain the cab number as well as the licence plate it makes the follow-up for the assigned member a lot quicker.  You could also call the cab company and speak to their complaints section or management about the issue.  There is no central authority that deal with cab operator complaints that I am aware of.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  19. 1970
    Carley, West Shore

    Hi there. I have a quick question regarding uninsured vehicles parked on the side of the road. My friends are selling their vehicle and have taken the plates off and uninsured the car. It is currently parked on the street, while they have it listed. Is this allowed? Will they be fined? Is there a grace period while they actively seek a buyer? Thanks very much.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Carley,

    Police may tow an unattended vehicle for several reasons that are outlined in Section 188 of the Motor Vehicle Act.  One of those reasons is if the vehicle is parked on a roadway without proper or valid number plates.  A peace officer may take that vehicle into his or her custody and cause it to be taken to and stored in a safe and otherwise suitable place.

    No, there is no grace period and Saanich also has a municipal bylaw that prohibits the parking of an un-insured vehicle on the roadway.  I see you live in West Shore so please check your local bylaws as well.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  20. 1969
    Thomas - Oak Bay / Saanich

    Dear Saanich Police,
    I have seen a series of bad drivers all around the streets in Victoria, Saanich, and elsewhere. Generally my procedure for reporting these complaints is to call 911 and follow the driver. Is this correct?

    In performing this act the individual is either jeopardizing the safe stopping distance between them and the vehicle in front of them by exceeding the safe speed (Ex 85 in an 80km/hr zone) or trying to force a vehicle in one lane to slow down by “cutting the other person off”

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    X O
    - - - - - - -
    O
    ———————————-

    Here is an example. I’m car O and a vehicle X is coming up behind me. Both car O’s are traveling at 85km/hr on Cruise Control. The vehicle feeling the need to annex a pressure over the drivers because the car is in a hurry speeds up behind me, and then cuts the other driver off the road. The vehicle in the right hand lane then has to do one of two things.

    1) Slow down to make way for the vehicle about that is about to collide with it due to there being no room for the vehicle itself

    2) Careen right to avoid the vehicle and be run off the road

    After the death of Glenna Evans, and other people whom I’m familiar with it upsets me that traffic concerns during the summer aren’t given the highest priority and that some form of discreet surveillance for speed, or speeding cameras are not determined for major area’s around town to generate more funds for roads, schools, and municipal needs.

    The real concern I have though is the demarcation for concern I believe. If indeed I do have a valid concern there is no unified way for all the police districts (Saanich, Oak Bay, CRD etc.) to share the same concern I have. Through the Victoria Police forum I have had the following responses to concerns were a driver was performing a “Life Threatening” maneuver like speeding 80-100km/hr in a school zone, or running threatening to ram me from behind in a car, and received back only the following…I had explained to Officer Vermette that the act of pulling in close behind a car blocks the lines through which a driver can see a “Skateboard” or “Bike” and then if I changed my mind and felt the need to turn right, I would not be able to see the bike approaching, nor the biker see my signal.

    Thanks for sharing my concern. Am I right for calling these “Dangerous Drivers into 911?

    Sincerely,
    Thomas [removed by Cst UNDERWOOD]

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Thomas,

    If there is an immediate risk to the public, meaning the person is swerving all over the roadway, unable to stay in his/her own lane and likely could cause a collision then you can call 911.  If the 911 operator deems the call not to be of an urgent matter they will ask you to call back on the non-emergency line.

    Yes, you can follow another vehicle while you report your complaint, BUT, we do not want any complainants to exceed the posted speed limit or disobey any of the rules of the road to do so.  We also do not recommend boxing someone in either, because this might cause the person to grow more and more aggressive and possibly take unneeded risks to pass your vehicle that might cause further risk to the public.

    We, the Saanich Police, recommend obtaining the vehicle licence plate number, description of driver and then call the police department where the offence took place to report the incident.  The complainant will then have to provide a detailed written statement outlining the offence so that the officer assigned can conduct the appropriate follow-up.

    In regards to your second post if you have issues with the previous police service provided you will have to contact the Victoria Police.  All complaints are dealt with as per the information provided and if there is enough evidence to support a Violation Ticket then one is issued, otherwise other avenues of followup are conducted.  It is important that you report your driving complaint to the Police Department that polices the area where the offence took place.  It is also important to remember that not all reported complaints lead to a violation ticket because an officer can only act on the information provided and that is why a detailed written statement is important.  All driving complaints are documented and therefore available to other police agencies for future reference. 

    Thanks for the questions.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD
     

  21. 1968
    Al, Saanich

    Your speed trap on McKenzie just before Braefoot headed west should be maned 24 hours a day. Even at 5:00 am in the morning while going to work people travel at well over 80 klm. I do see the odd cruiser pull up Borden but rarely see them further east than that.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Al,

    I do know that our Traffic Safety Unit and Patrol Division do conduct extensive traffic enforcement on McKenzie Ave, including the area you have described.  We, the Saanich Police, do not have the personnel to conduct traffic enforcement at McKenzie and Braefoot 24hr a day.

    I will forward your post to the Traffic Safety Unit for their information that enhanced traffic enforcement is requested in that area.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  22. 1967
    Denise

    Hi, I live in the 3700 block of Sannich Rd. Please start doing some radar during the morning commute. Between 7:30 and 8:30 A M. There is going to be a horrible accident along this stretch due to the speed of traffic. Thankyou.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Denise,

    I have forwarded your complaint to the Traffic Safety Unit for their consideration.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  23. 1966
    John, Saanich

    Hello There.

    I have a question regarding tinted visors on motorcycle helmets. Simply, are they illegal to wear at night? I can’t find anything in the MVA which discusses motorcycle helmets, aside from the section noting they are mandatory. Also, is it illegal to ride a motorcycle while wearing earbuds/mp3 player? I realize both wearing earbuds anytime and wearing a tinted visor at night are not good ideas… but I am curious whether there is anything addressing them in the MVA. Thanks!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John,

    Regarding the use of “ear buds” while driving, there is currently no traffic law in BC that explicitly makes this practice illegal; however effective January 1, 2010 if you are going to wear them for a hands free device, the law states that you can only use one.  It is vital that a driver can hear an emergency vehicle approaching or other vehicles honking and by wearing “ear buds” that ability is significantly diminished, therefore I would not wear them.

    There are also no laws in the Motor Vehicle Act at the present time to prevent a person from wearing a tinted motorcycle helmet visor at night. 

    I agree people really need to use common sense on both these issues.  If your visibility or hearing is compromised by a set of “ear buds” or tinting on your motorcycle helmet visor your ability to operate a motor vehicle/motorcycle safely is significantly reduced.  Hence you are at a higher risk for a collision.

    Drive safe.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  24. 1965
    Old Scout

    I have carried a pen knife/jack knife all my life; literally since I was a boy scout. The knife I currently carry has a 3 inch blade. Recently a friend told me that it is illegal to carry a jack knife in your pocket because it is a concealled weapon. He also told me that it was illegal to carry a pen knife into a bar.
    Like I said I always carry a jack knife and use it for everything from cutting weeds out of my lawn, peeling an apple to cleaning my finger nails. But I definitely do not want to break the law. Can you shed some light on this please?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Old Scout,

    I understand the reasons why you want to carry your knife, your question has been answered on a previous post #1932.  Please refer to that posting for details.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  25. 1964
    Jay From Surrey

    Was looking for some info . online and seen this . Wonderful service and I appreciate your time. I had a notice to license my dog. It says that if they don’t hear from me in 14 days, they will do a follow up. I intend to licence my dog, but three days later on Sunday A.M. I had a city by-law officer and a rep from the SPCA in my yard while I was packing to go to the beach. Short story long, I asked them to leave my property so that I could continue to pack, and get on my way. They insisted that they have the right to be on my property during reasonable hours. I wanted to remove them from my property, but my kids were there, and I certainly did not want to bring it to that level . Are they correct? Can they stand in my face , harassing me about fleas on my dog, when I already received a notice and still had 11 days to comply with the licensing issue? I love my dog, and he is well looked after, can they take him if I don’t prove that I use flea repellent? I feel like I have to hide him know , I am so paranoid. Any info would be appreciated, thank you for your time…………Jay [removed by Cst UNDERWOOD] Surrey

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jay,

    My recommendation to you is to call the Surrey Detatchment and have them provide the answer, simply because I would rather the department involved provide you with the information required.  Especially when it relates to police service.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  26. 1963
    Ian, Nanaimo

    Why is it that cops are allowed to breakup parties held on government forest property, even when there are cleanup crews involved? It seems to me one of the basic reasons we pay taxes is to be able to enjoy the land. (I don’t deem forest fire concerns a good answer, as these bans are in place 365 days of the year)

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ian,

    Based on the information that you provide there could be several reasons why a party could be broken up in a public place and they are as follows:

    1) Consume Liquor in a Public Place, contrary to Section 40 of the Liquor Control and Licensing Act,
    2) Intoxicated in a Public Place, contrary to Section 41 of the Liquor Control and Licensing Act,
    3) Causing a Disturbance, contrary to Section 175 of the Criminal Code,
    4) Mischief, contrary to Section 430 of the Criminal Code,
    5) and Noise Complaints/Breach of the Peace.

    A police officer can act on any of the above violations and then break up the party to prevent the continuation or repetition of the offence and if the party is deemed out of control they can act to protect life and property which is a common law duty.  If you want a full justification regarding the police action taken you will have to contact your local police department, because they are the agency that attended and have all the circumstance surrounding their decision making.

    Hope that provides some clarity.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  27. 1962
    Joachim, "The West Side"

    First of all, I would like to say what a pleasant surprise it was to stumble across
    this public forum. I have lived in Victoria for many years and consider the Saanich force one of the most professional I have ever encountered. Anywhere! This question and answer forum is a statement of that professionalism.

    Now, for my question! If a member of the public suspects a business of illegally
    dumping industrial hazardous materials into the environment. (Saanich) Do we contact the police, or is there a more suitable avenue? Thanx in advance!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Joachim,

    You can report it to the Saanich Police if there is an immediate risk to the public.  If there is no immediate risk to the public I would lodge your complaint with the Bylaw Section of the Muncipal Hall, because they deal with any bylaw infractions for the muncipality and the illegal dumping of industrial materials would fall under their authority.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  28. 1961
    Chuck

    You missed my question, the road I am thinking about is the intersection of Burnside West and Watkiss Way. And as I stated the galloping goose crosses the road at the crosswalk of this intersection. So your comment about them oboying the stop sign is not relevant because on the galloping goose there is no stop signs. It just goes across at the pedestrian crosswalk at this intersection, as previously stated in my question. So again my question is who has the right of way, the bicycle being ridden across the road at the pedestrian crosswalk or a vehicle who has obeyed the stop sign and is then proceeding through this crosswalk? Hopefully this makes my question a little clearer.
    Thanks for providing this service,
    Chuck

    Question #1 The galloping goose crosses a road very close to our house at an intersection which is a four way stop intersection. The galloping goose goes across at the crosswalk of this intersection. My question is who has the right of way, the vehicle or a person riding their bicycle across the road at the crosswalk?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Chuck,

    Question 1 – If it is a four way stop the cyclist should be obeying the stop sign and if you reached the intersection first and are entering the intersection then the cyclist should be yielding the right of way and vise versa. It would have helped me to visualize the intersection you are writing about it you would have included the street names.

    Saanich Police Updated Response:

    Hi again Chuck,

    The Galloping Goose does have stop signs, yield signs to assist in controlling the pedestrian and bicycle traffic but there are also crosswalks with no signage.  As posted on the Galloping Goose/Lochside Trail web site cyclists are to “use caution and obey traffic rules on roads and at road crossings” and CRD Parks also confirms that cyclist should be following the Motor Vehicle Act.

    1) Crosswalk as defined in Section 119 of the Motor Vehicle Act:
    “a) as a portion of the roadway at an intersection or elsewhere distinctly indicated for pedestrian crossing by signs or by lines or other markings on the surface.

    2) Right of way between vehicle and pedestrian is outlined in Section 179 of the Motor Vehicle Act (this is a lengthy section and I have taken key pieces out):
    “The driver of a vehicle must yield the right of way to a pedestrian where traffic control signals are not in place.”

    “A pedestrian must not leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle that is so close it is impracticable for the driver to yield the right of way.”

    3) Rights and duties of operator of cycle are outlined in Section 183 of the Motor Vehicle Act:
    “(2)(b) must not, for the purpose of crossing a highway, ride on a crosswalk unless authorized to do so by a bylaw made under section 124 or unless otherwise directed by sign.”

    Conclusion: With all above being stated the cyclist should approach the crosswalk, dismount and walk across, unless a municipal bylaw grant permission for a cyclist to ride in a crosswalk.  A cyclist should not be riding up to and straight into the crosswalk, they must clear it of vehicles first.  The cyclist(on or off the bike) should not step/ride out onto the crosswalk until there is adequate stopping distance for any approaching vehicles.  The driver of a vehicle must yield the right of way to the person at the crosswalk.

    I hope that helps.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  29. 1960
    Inquiry, Victoria

    I saw this boarder coming at me on the sidewalk and as he flashed by me I jumped up and down. He then fingered me. I then told him that this is a sidewalk not a skate park and it’s dangerous for you to fly by people on sidewalks, you could hurt yourself or others. So I then started walking towards him as we where debating and he thumbed around in his pocket and pulled a knife out of his pocket and start lunging at me. I then yelled really loud so as to get people around me attention, so then that made him put it away.

    My question is, is it not illegal to ride on sidewalks, is it not illegal to pull knifes and threaten people? What should I do next?

    He had died hair so that it looked yellowy blonde. He had a green loose t-shirt, blue short, black sock with black flat soled shoes. He has a bit of a build and a tattoo on his left inside arm of a (what I could make out) woman with black hair, there might have been some red in it if I recall correctly.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Inquiry, Victoria,

    Sorry for the delay on this reply as I was on my four days off.

    1) Is it illegal to ride a skateboard on the sidewalk? 

    A “cycle” as defined in Section 119 of the Motor Vehicle Act “means a device having any number of wheels that is propelled by human power and on which a person may ride and includes a motor assisted cycle, but does not include a skate board, roller skates or in-line roller skates. 

    Therefore under the Motor Vehicle Act it is not illegal to ride a skateboard on the sidewalk, BUT, you must check your Victoria Bylaws as they might have a bylaw against skateboarding on the sidewalk. 

    2) Is it illegal to pull a knife and threaten someone? 

    Yes it is illegal to pull out a knife and threaten someone with it, Assault as per Section 266 (wording in 265) of the Criminal Code, and you should have called the police immediately after the incident to report it.

    I hope that helps.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  30. 1959
    Theo, Saanich

    What happens when you are pulled over for having tinted windows. Is there a fine or what do you have to do? Once it is removed by a glass company do you have to do anything else? What is your procedure?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Theo thanks for the question.

    If an officer pulls over a person for tinted windows they could issue a violation ticket pursuant to Section 7.05(8) of the Motor Vehicle Act for Tined Windows [film], fine amount $109, and/or they could issue a Notice in Order to have the tinting removed.  If a Notice in Order is issued the driver would have a set period of time to show a local police department that the tinting has been removed.  We do not have a set procedure that our officers follow; we leave it to the member’s discretion. 

    Hope that provides some clarity.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  31. 1958
    Brett Langford

    So that means selling Salvia isn’t illegal either right?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi again Brett,

    According to the CDSA Salvia is not illegal to sell.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  32. 1957
    Rob, Saanich

    I was just reading through all the questions people send in. Very informative. Great site too by the way.
    Anyway, one of them dealt with a question about sitting in your vehicle intoxicated and could that lead to charges. The answer was yes, and even if you were only in close proximity to the vehicle, as long as you had possession of a means to control or set the car in motion. So, that said, what happens when a person is intoxicated at home. They have the car in the driveway, the keys in the house and every means possible to combine the two and drive. Are they not breaking the same law?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Rob,

    I could not locate the post that you were referencing and I would have liked to read the question and answer before commenting so that I had the full context; but as the previous post indicated yes if a person is behind the steering wheel, after consuming alcohol, they can receive a 24hr Prohibition or possibly a Criminal Code charge of Care and Control. 

    Regarding close proximity there are multiple scenarios that officers could enforce.  I believe the previous officer was referring to a person walking to their vehicle with keys in hand after leaving a bar/party or someone who has driven to an isolated area and the only way to get home is drive.  Those types of scenario are different than what you have described because an officer has made personal observations.  A person walking to/around their vehicle (that is not parked at home), after the consumption of alcohol, with keys in hand with the intent to drive home gives the officer reasonable and probable grounds to believe that the person is going to operate their vehicle while their ability is affected by alcohol.

    A person sitting in their house has shown no indication they are going to drive and the officer has made no observations of that fact because the person is inside.

    Hope that brings clarity the situation.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  33. 1956
    Rob, Saanich

    I am concerned witht the bicycle traffic that crosses Harriet near Crease Ave on the Goose. Every morning I stop my car there to look both ways but I tell you, most of the bicycles that come roaring down the Goose do not even slow or look before barreling across that intersection. The view to the right is obscured just enough that a driver can think nothing is coming only to have a bike whizz by across the front of his car. I really wish the cyclists could be as careful as the motor vehicle drivers must be when approaching any intersection. Perhaps it’s time for speed bumps on the trail to slow these people down before they cross a street?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Rob,

    Regarding the placement of speed bumps on the Galloping Goose Trail just prior to where the Goose intersects with a roadway you will have to speak to the Municipal Hall, possibly engineering.  We as police do not look into that type of request; the Municipality of Saanich would analyze the need for any traffic calming devices in the municipality.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  34. 1955
    Brett, Langford

    Hi, is there any law against possessing Salvia divinorum?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Brett,

    No, Salvia Divinorum is not listed under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act at this time, hence it is not illegal to possess.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  35. 1954
    Samara, Saanich

    Hi there I have been riding horses for a while now, and my horse is on Oldfield Rd. I have noticed not many cars like to slow down, or they go TOO slow and pass just inches away from my horse and me. While others pass slow and wide when they can. My question is, what happens if im wearing my Visible vest, and im off the road, and my horse panicks becuase a car went too fast and she spooks onto the road and the car hits us. What would happen? Like legally. As I have been almost hit and the people in the cars just flip me the finger and yell “go ride in the ring or where ever” and it is getting to the point were people who drive on oldfield rd need to be aware there are horses down this road, and not all of them are “bomb proof” ( not scared of anything) As if me and my horse got hit, i would be very angry.

    Thank-you

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Samara,

    Interesting question!  If you (and horse) were involved in a collision with a vehicle a police officer would attend the scene due to the injuries/damage sustained in the collision.  The officer would gather all the evidence and document it on a police report and a collision report for ICBC.  If there is enough supportive evidence that an offence had been committed contrary to the Motor Vehicle Act, by the driver, a violation ticket could be issued.  In terms of liability that would be assessed by ICBC and I would assume they would take into account the drivers actions and the control that you had over the horse at the time of the collision and then they would make some determination from there.

    Hope that helps.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  36. 1953
    Chuck

    Dear Sir/Madam:
    I have two questions that I would very much like answered concerning traffic laws:
    Question #1 The galloping goose crosses a road very close to our house at an intersection which is a four way stop intersection. The galloping goose goes across at the crosswalk of this intersection. My question is who has the right of way, the vehicle or a person riding their bicycle across the road at the crosswalk?
    Question #2 It is legal to make a u-turn at a controlled (traffic lights) intersection in Saanich?
    Thank you very much for the answers,
    Chuck

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Chuck,

    Question 1 – If it is a four way stop the cyclist should be obeying the stop sign and if you reached the intersection first and are entering the intersection then the cyclist should be yielding the right of way and vise versa.  It would have helped me to visualize the intersection you are writing about it you would have included the street names.

    Question 2 – No you can not conduct a u-turn at an intersection where a traffic control signal has been erected as per Section 168 of the Motor Vehicle Act.

    Thanks for the questions.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  37. 1952
    Dave, Saanich Panhandle

    Hi,

    Thanks for providing this forum!

    I live in the Saanich panhandle and have noticed a lot more transients in the neighbourhood, being near RJH this has always been the case but the BC Hydro field has become increasingly popular over the last year. The last couple of nights I’ve now noticed campers in the Hydro field so I am wondering if camping is actually allowed here like in the City of Victoria? If it isn’t then should we be calling in to the SPD to make a complaint or should we be contacting BC Hydro?

    Many thanks.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Dave,

    As per paragraph 14(a) of the Saanich Parks Management Bylaw, No. 7753, “no person shall camp overnight in or on any portion of any park or on any beach”.  Hydro field does fall within the Municipality of the District of Saanich so you can call the non-emergency line, 250-475-4321, to report any issues.

    Hope that helps.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  38. 1951
    wayne dartmouth ns

    Dear Sir, whats it like to work with all the Law enforcement agencys in bc and around canada does the agency have a great freind ship with the RCMP ect!!

    i was wondering if you could please send me some pins, laynard keychain and a patch that u could
    send to me will be greatly apperciated
    and if there is any one there is a patch trader please forword my name to them and if u have any pins like k-9 unit, and urt can u send them to
    i hope to hear back from you soon!!
    yours Truly
    Wayne 
    [Personal Information removed by Cst UNDERWOOD]

    Saanich Police Response: 

    Hi Wayne,

    It is great working for Saanich and I have worked with other agencies in a regionalized unit and the cooperation was excellent.

    I have forwarded your request for a patch to the Chief’s Office and one will be mailed out to you.

    Enjoy.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD 

  39. 1950
    Dave, Saanich

    Hello,

    I have a question re. paintball markers. Would I be in violation of any CCC or Bylaw to fire my paintball marker in my back yard into a garbage can “trap” for purposes of testing the marker after performing a repair? From what I can tell a paintball marker is not a firearm as it fails to meet the criteria (fps is under 500)… This marker in particular does not resemble any known firearm so also fails to meet a description of a replica.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Dave,

    Sorry for the slow reply but I wanted to confirm your answer with Bylaw Enforcement.  No, you can not discharge a paintball gun in your backyard as per the Firearms and Bows Bylaw, No. 8092.  The discharge of a paintball gun will fall under the Municipal Bylaws not the Criminal Code.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  40. 1949
    Eli, Victoria

    will saanich police be getting a new type of vehicle and what type

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Eli,

    We will not be getting a new type of patrol vehicle for another year or two because we just replaced some.  I do know we are presently looking for a new model but it has yet to be confirmed which model we will go with.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  41. 1948
    John, Saanich

    Hi,

    I was curious if a single vehicle accident involving a pedestrian with no injuries and only a small dent in the car required a police report or not. I know a single vehicle accident alone doesn’t always. Even though everyone involved was alright I wasn’t sure if there was any caveats requiring a police report (aside from for an insurance claim) because pedestrians were involved. Mind you pedestrian is a loose term as there were a group of people walking in the middle of the road and when going around, one moved into the cars path (Thank God at a low speed, scared me half to death when they moved into the cars path).

    In any case, aside from being scared half to death of a person moving into the cars path, I’d hate to get a ticket for failure to report an accident or something like that so would like to make sure.

    Thanks in advance for your reply.

    Saanich Police Response: 

    Hi John,

    If there is a collision and there are no injuries and the damage is not over $1000 then you would not have to report it to police.

    I have attached Section 68 of the Motor Vehicle Act which outlines the duties of a driver at the collision.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  42. 1947
    Brett, Langford

    Hello,

    Regarding the cell phone while driving ban, if i’m at a red light am I allowed to pick up my phone just to check the time? If an officer saw me, would they fine me?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello Brett,

    No, you can not use your cell phone or its functions while stopped at a red light as per Section 214 of the Motor Vehicle Act.  “Operating one or more of the device’s functions” is prohibited under this new section.  If a member was conducting patrols and saw you “holding the device in a position in which it may be used” then you could be subject to a fine.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  43. 1946
    tim, Saanich

    I would caution against stopping someone to ask for a receipt. The simple fact of the matter is, if you have done nothing criminally wrong, then you can keep walking. Its the same with the sensormatic alarms… just because they beep, the store cannot legally stop your forward motion unless they have witnessed you commit a criminal offence.

    As Cst Underwood typed out good ol’ Sec 494 of the C.C which does state that a citizen has the power to arrest, but ONLY if they SEE an offence taking place. There is no resonable grounds clause in there, as the police have.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tim,

    This topic has created conversation; please refer to post 1942 for my reply.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  44. 1945
    Sally, Saanich

    I use the intersection of Saanich Rd. and Quadra Rd quite often and have observed a lot of near misses.

    A large hedge on the(city owned) boulevard effectively blocks sight lines for anyone turning left from Saanich Rd. on to Quadra. Vehicles have to creep quite far onto Quadra and this often impedes one lane of traffic.

    Can anything be done?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sally,

    Yes, the Municipal Yard would be responsible for trimming that bush.  I will call them on Tuesday and notify them of your complaint. 

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  45. 1944
    Jason, Victoria

    I hate to be a “butt’er inner”, but I had to respond to post 1939.

    As a former loss prevention officer for a major retail chain I can confirm that most stores have absolutely no authority to stop you at the exit and demand receipt/bag checks…doing so could constitute false arrest (unless it is a place like Costco where that authorization is contained in the membership agreement). Showing your bags and receipt is strictly voluntary. However, all stores have every right to legitimately trespass these people from shopping there, especially if you are being a smart ass about it. Therefore, Cst. Underwood is wise to reccomend complying with store requests.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Thanks for your comments Jason.  The initial question on post 1939 has triggered several follow-up posts.  Does a person have to produce a receipt upon leaving a business?  From my knowledge there is no legal obligation unless it is documented in a membership contract.  We could probably debate the legalities of this topic at length, especially when speaking to the topic of a false arrest and obligations relating to “civil contract”, but we don’t have the space or time on this type of venue.  It is an interesting scenario and the question I think people have to ask themselves is how onerous is it to present a receipt upon leaving a business?  

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  46. 1943
    Jason

    I used to live in Ontario and out there we were allow to tow two trailers behind a tow vehicle (travel and tent trailer). When I told my neighbour I was planning on doing this on an upcoming camping trip in August he told me this was forbidden under the BC motor vehicle act. I have tried finding this in the motor vehicle act but was not successful. Is this correct and if so what is the specific act.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jason,

    I have reviewed Section 7.07 of the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations and it does not give me a definitive answer, but it does seem to reference trailer (singular).  I would recommend that you call the Motor Vehicle Branch and confirm it with them because I do not want to lead you astray.

    Good luck in finding your answer.  If you don’t mind when you do get a confirmed answer could you send me an email at dunderwood@saanichpolice.ca and notify me of the results in case this question comes up again.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  47. 1942
    CE, Saanich

    My brother, in his 40’s, is a heroine addict. He is now in the stages of his addiction where he goes missing regularly for weeks at a time, is approaching all friends and family (and businesses) with elaborate stories for money, stealing, has bankrupt my parents on many levels, etc. I want to help but am so far out of my league on this topic. I also feel the need to keep him at arms length given that I have a young family. We are obviously concerned for his life and not sure the courses of action to take to find him or help him once we do find him given that all our attempts thus far have fail. Yes we have attended NA. I am posting this because I think there must be many families like us in this situation trying desparately find ways to make a difference for their loved ones. I would appreciate your feedback.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi CE,

    This is a very difficult scenario and I think for this question it might be better if you called me, so that I can get a better picture of what the scenario is, what your family has done and where I can give some recommendations.  My number is 250-475-4342 and I work Tuesday to Friday.

    If you don’t feel comfortable calling then you have to decide if at some point if your brother is missing, because then you could start a police report.  Also if your brother is committing criminal offences and is getting arrested then you could contact Crown Counsel and ask if there is any way to impose a “must attend rehabilitation” condition on his release order.  As a family you could also decide if rehabilitation (paid by the family) might be more appropriate than NA meetings.  From what you have described I think your brother might need to go to a full rehabilitation facility versus NA meetings.

    These situations are very trying on a family and I wish you luck in the process and I hope that you can help your brother, but there are some people that simply don’t want help.  It might be worth some of the family going to meetings as well to learn how to deal with the present situation and to ensure that you are not enabling your brother with his addiction.

    I hope this is of some assistance.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD 

  48. 1941
    Sokol, Saanich

    My name is Sokol (removed by Cst UNDERWOOD) and i”m a Saanich resident! I’d like to leave a comment about how great was the experience of dealing with one of your;s officers when he pulled me over last night in McKenzie.
    His initials on the ticket are R-L. Actually i.m not very happy to be pull over but the skills of this guy to deal with people were beautifull. Great smile and ferm in his job! At the end even I was in wrong side make me and my family fell a lot more safe and secure. Wish all the officers be like this guy

    Please say thank you to him from me and have a great day

    S.D

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sokol,

    I appreciate you taking the time to share your positive experience.  I will forward your email to both the member involved and his Staff Sergeant.

    Thanks for writing in.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  49. 1940
    Mike, Saanich

    Hi,

    Firstly, thanks for providing this great question and answer service for the public.

    Secondly, with the new Best Buy store opening in the Uptown complex, it’s the first time that I’ve been asked to show my receipt upon leaving a retail establishment. I complied, but I understand that once I’ve paid for my purchases they are my personal property. Am I within my rights to decline to have my receipt and bags checked as I leave the store? If I do so, do employees have a right to detain me there, assuming I have done nothing else suspicious? I ask the question generally, not just in specific about Best Buy.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mike,

    I understand that you feel that you should not have to show your receipt upon leaving, but the staff is simply trying to confirm that the item or items are paid for before they are taken out of the business to prevent theft.  I would hazard to guess that if you refused to show a receipt or said you didn’t have one that they would question if you were trying to steal the item.  You might think your actions are not suspicious but a business owner would think otherwise if a person was trying to leave a business with merchanise refusing to show a receipt. 

    Yes, citizens have the power of arrest under section 494 of the Criminal Code if they find someone committing an indictable offence and any one who is the owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property.

    To prevent staff from thinking you are attempting to steal the purchased item simply show them your receipt.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  50. 1939
    SF, Saanich

    In terms of recruitment, if one was a military police officer would that person qualify for Experienced Police Officer status, and get to do the exemption test?

    Thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi SF,

    Sorry for the slow reply.  Regarding the application process for a member of the Military Police you would have to follow the new recruit process.  If hired the person would then go to Block 1 training at the Justice Institute of BC, come back to the Saanich Police Department to complete their Block 2 (the field training block) and if all goes well they could challenge the return to the Justice Institute for Block 3 training. 

    For more details on the above you would have to speak to Sgt. DUTHIE of the Staff Development Section.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

     

  51. 1938
    Addy, Saanich

    What should I do if my neighbours are smoking pot on their balcony? It comes right into our home and is bothersome. I have asked them not to do so, and they have agreed, and then it started happening again. I would feel silly calling the cops on such a tiny matter, but it is an illegal substance…

    If I did call, what would happen?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Addy,

    Yes you can call the police for assistance on this matter.  The member would speak with you to get the details and then attempt to speak to the occupant of the residence regarding the illegal activity.

    Thanks for writing.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  52. 1937
    Shawn, Saanich

    Hello, I purchased an appliance from a well know furniture store and discovered that they had sold this item to me with no model, or serial number tag. Is it illegal to sell items without serial numbers?
    Thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Very interesting question Shawn!

    I have been able to determine that it is illegal to sell an appliance without a serial number attached.

    You might want to follow-up with the furniture store.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  53. 1936
    John Saanich

    Thank you for your response. The male in question is, I would guess, mid-40’s, about 6 ft 2 in, 170 pounds (tall and skinny), short hair with a receding hairline, clean shaven. I did not observe any tattoos, scars or other visable identifiers. I did not suspect that he was a “street person” living in the park because he was properly groomed and his clothes were appropriate and clean. That’s why I suspected a community based residential centre. I was concerned because my neighbours, including women on their own, walk their dogs in this area. Also, the burial park is close by, portions of it are isolated and I’ve observed that older people often come to visit graves on their own. I’ll try and ask my neighbours who walk in the park if they’ve had any encounters with this individual and, if I see him again, I’ll call it in. I’m off for a couple of weeks, so if you don’t hear anything by then it may blow over.

    John

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi again John,

    Your description does not ring any bells for me, but if you have another issue please call our non-emergency line, 250-475-4321, or 911 if it is an emergency.  Please don’t write in your complaint on our question and comments pages because if I am on days off it could sit for up to 3 days.

    Hopefully you have no further problems.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  54. 1935
    RE: 1930

    I had a criminal record check conducted not too long ago for employment reasons. The police checked off “may or may not exist” due to my one and only speeding ticket that I received in 2009. Whoever marked the box off did add a letter to the back of the record check stating that it was marked off due to a MVA violation. However, this can be easily missed by potential employers and I feel that this is wrong as it was not a criminal code offense. I almost did not get a call back due to this and when I did, I had to explain that it was for a speeding ticket and stated that I would happily get a driver’s abstract if needed. Is there a way to avoid this in the future? And how long does a speeding ticket stay on your “record” for?

    I remember seeing an article awhile back stating that they were going to get rid of this box due to this and other reasons. Is this still in the works?

    Thanks for this great site!

    Cheers!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi RE 1930,

    As indicated in comment 1930 if you have any specific questions regarding a criminal record check and the results you will have to speak to the Administrative Constable who deals with them.  The Administrative Constable has the best knowledge base when it comes to Criminal Record Checks and you can call the Administrative Constable directly at 250-475-4352.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  55. 1934
    Laurie, Gordon Head

    Hello
    I feel compelled to respond to a media statement on your website, and also from the Times Colonist in regard to the woman whom was chased by a deer (foe) in Gordon Head today (July 22).
    I am in awe of the last statement made from the new article in which states ”
    People shouldn’t forget that deer are wild animals, Rees said, not friendly, “Disney-style” creatures.

    Anyone who sees one — especially while walking a dog, which deer see as predators — should walk the other way.

    I have 3 small children and walk in the Gordon Head area daily, and believe that the deer population is threatening, especially in Sept. during rutting season, and something must be done about this before our children are put in further danger.

    Why in the suburbs of Victoria should we have to run away from deer? Last year my son and I were chased on the way to school by a male buck. I had my babies in a buggy and had to tell my 5 yr old to start running in order to escape.

    When the deer population is starting to take control over the suburb the situation is getting riduculous. In every other country and animal that was not endangered and bread like rabbits would be culled. Why is this situation being ignored when it is causing such a negative impact on our suburbs?

    Thank you for your consideration into taking further action in this serious matter.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Laurie,

    We as police do not have the authority to conduct any “selective slaughtering” of wild animals.  We have authority to dispatch deer if they are injured and unable to care for themselves or if a wild animal is going to or is causing bodily harm or death to another person.

    If you want to follow this up you will have to speak to either the Ministry of Environment or BC Conservation.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  56. 1933
    A

    Hello I had a question about internet downloading. If I were to download a movie off the internet, that was still in theatres and watched it, would that be illegal? I understand if I did that and sold copies, or filmed it in the theatres myself, then it would be illegal.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Great question A.

    From my research I have determined that it is legal in Canada to download, through file sharing, existing movies off the internet and watch them yourself.  It is illegal for you to sell or rent those movies for personal gain and the person who uploads that movie onto the internet has also committed a criminal offence in Canada.

    I hope that helps.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  57. 1932
    Daniel, Saanich

    I am wanting to know the proper rules for carrying a small fixed bladed knife (3″ blade) on a belt or harness. preferably with a locking sheath of some kind.

    Am I running into problems with concealed carry rules?
    Is this a weapon?
    If I am questioned by police officers how should I make them aware of it to minimize their risk?
    Is there a problem entering a restaurant, bar or government office?

    thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello Daniel,

    My question is why you feel a need to carry one that aside lets answer your questions.  No you can not take a knife into a government office or liquor establishment (including restaurants that serve liquor), as per section 89(1) of the Criminal Code and section 47(2) of the Liquor Control and Licensing Act.  If you have the knife in a sheath on your belt it is not classified as concealed if it is visible.  If you are stopped by police I would not, I repeat not make any motion towards grabbing the knife or pulling it out.  I would just advise the member verbally that you have one. 

    If I were you I wouldn’t even carry one because you can not carry it everywhere without breaking the law and often people feel they should carry a knife for protection and when in a fight the knife is often taken away and used on the original carrier.  I won’t even get into the Criminal Code charges if you use it on a person.

    I would leave the knife at home!

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

     

  58. 1931
    jocelyn, victoria

    Hello,
    I am looking for a place to rent and I was told that many places in Victoria are 24 hour quiet zones. I have looked at the noise bylaw and cannot find anything telling me exactly what those are. I am wondering if they exist and what exactly they would entail if we were to live in one?
    Thanks
    Jocelyn

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jocelyn,

    I have attached the Noise Suppression Bylaw, No.7059, which will likely answer all of your questions regarding “quiet zones”.  You will find “quiet zone” in the definitions portion of the bylaw and it is referenced in paragraphs 7 and 8.  It is important to note that paragraph 3 of the Noise Suppression Bylaw is in effect 24hr a day, 7 days a week.

    Hope that is of some assistance.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  59. 1930
    MB, Saanich

    Hi there,

    I am confused about the checkbox on a criminal record check that reads, “A criminal record may or may not exist’. If this box is checked off when a standard check is completed, what does this mean?

    If someone wanted this removed from their criminal history, how would they go about this if they were never actually charged/convicted of a crime (or even fingerprinted)? Is there a chance this would never get removed?

    Thank you for this informative site.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Glad you like the site MB.

    If you have been arrested and not charged/convicted of a criminal offence then “Box 4” on the Criminal Record Check would have a tick in “may or may not exist”.  That means that the applicant has had negative interaction with the police that did not result in a criminal conviction.  That file would stay on your record until the retention date has passed.

    For further information on Criminal Record Checks or why certain boxes were checked then you can contact our Administrative Constable at the front desk at 240-475-4352.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  60. 1929
    John Saanich

    On two separate occasions, while walking in the woods behind my house, in the Wesley/Royal Oak Burial Park area, I have been accosted by an adult male who verbally threatened me without provocation. I was wondering if anyone else had reported a similar problem? Is there a community based residential cente in the area for mentally ill adults?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John,

    I conducted a browse of all our Suspicious Circumstances files for the past 2 months, 375 in total, and I could not find any reports that were similar to your complaint.  I hope that you have reported this to police and if you haven’t I would call us right away next time so that we can determine who this person is!  I do know that patients from Seven Oak do walk into the Broadmead area and are often AWOL from that facility without permission.

    Please call next time so that we can attempt to locate and identify the person.

    Take Care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  61. 1928
    Neil, Saanich

    Excellent website.
    Question: I like to walk on the Galloping Goose Trail. The trail between Saanich Road and City Hall (Swan Lake area) can be very dark. A few times I’ve had cyclists shout at me because of my lack of visibility. I didn’t have a light because I wasn’t expecting to collide with anything, but now I carry a light to avoid confrontations with cyclists - and I agree it’s the smart thing to do. However, do pedestrians have to carry a light by law?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Neil,

    No there is no law that stipulates that a pedestrian has to carry a light, but I would for sure to help ensure my safety.  Cyclists on the other hand do have to have a light affixed to the front and rear of their bicycle after dark.

    Thanks for the support of our website.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  62. 1927
    Jessie, Victoria Capital Region

    Hi there,

    I have a friend who regularly goes out on weekends and then drives home heavily intoxicated. It’s not that I want to rat on her, but I’m worried about her safety and also about the lives of those who are on the road at the same time. I knew she did it once, but now she is openly declaring her behaviour (with an unashamed tone) on a social networking website. If I have no evidence of her behaviour other than what she tells me, and if I have never actually seen her do it, should I report her? What would happen if she is reported? I think she just needs a little bit of a shake-up so she realises that what she is doing is not okay. It’s almost like she thinks it doesn’t matter.

    Advice?

    Thanks.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello Jessie,

    That is disappointing that your friend does not consider the safety of the public when she decides to drink and drive.  Unfortunately there is not much we can do after the fact it is more important to report her while the offence is occurring.  If your friend is reported and located driving a motor vehicle while impaired by alcohol it would depend on what her blood alcohol level is at the time of the driving.  If between .05-.08 then she would be subjected to a 24hr Prohibition and if over .08 then she would be subject to a charge under the Criminal Code.

    Jessie you should consider having a firm conversation with her regarding her actions, because if she is arrested that could affect her for years to follow.  Not to mention if she gets into a collision while impaired and kills someone else, that would be horrific.

    Drinking and driving does matter because it is directly linked to hundreds of motor vehicle collisions a year in the CRD that result in substantial property damage and serious bodily harm or death.  If you need to talk about this more you can call me at the Saanich Police Department, 250-475-4321.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD 

  63. 1926
    Brett, Langford

    When an officer pulls over a vehicle, are they allowed to ask passengers for ID? Can they refuse?

    Saanich Police Response: 

    Hello Brett,

    Yes the police can ask for your passenger’s identification and yes the passenger can refuse, but the passenger’s right to refuse changes significantly depending on the situation.  If there has been a criminal offence, the driver is driving contrary to restrictions (required supervisor/too many passengers) or the passenger has committed an offence under the Motor Vehicle Act then they can not refuse to provide their identification.  The list above is just a few examples of where the passenger could be required to provide identification.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  64. 1925
    MD Saanich

    A question about this blog site. If I ask a hypothetical question about a crime commited, would the police try and trace the computer it came from to check if the question is about a real crime someone commited or could commit. Like if I asked if it’s ok for a 29 year old to be with a 17 year old in an intimate relationship would the police try and trace me to find out who I am? Or if I asked about drugs would the police try and trace me because they think I have ro sell drugs. These really are all hypothetical by the way

    thanks

    Saanich Police Response: 

    Thanks for writing in MD.

    I would hope that no one would write in a false complaint about someone at risk, because that would tie up an investigator that could be working on another serious file.  If someone asked a general question about drugs then no follow up would be conducted, but if the information relayed relates directly to a criminal offence, especially where someone is at risk, then the police would follow up. 

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  65. 1924
    Rob Victoria

    In regards to the post.
    #
    1913
    Pete, Saanich
    July 14th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Are we allowed to use a pellet gun to scare away rabbits and deers in our garden?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Thanks for the question Pete. No you are not allowed to scare away rabbits or deer that are in your garden by shooting them with a pellet gun. Saanich Bylaw 8092, paragraph 2, outlines that no person shall discharge any firearm within the Municipality of Saanich except for the reasons listed in that bylaw.

    Hopefully you can find an alternative.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

    It depends how powerful the pellet gun is.
    If it less than 500 fps feet per second.
    It is not a firearm under the criminal code.
    If its not a firearm then its not applicable.
    Cheers.

    Following are some weapons and devices that meet the definition of a firearm but that are deemed not to be firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act and related offences in the Criminal Code

    # Air guns and other barreled weapons designed to have:

    * A muzzle velocity of 152.4 meters (500 feet) per second or less and/or
    * A muzzle energy of 5.7 joules (4.2 foot pounds) or less.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Rob,

    I do realize that the definition of a firearm in the Criminal Code is different than the definition of a firearm in the Saanich Bylaws.  The Saanich Bylaws defines a firearm as follows: “firearm - includes airguns, air rifles, air pistols and spring guns”.  Therefore Pete will still have to follow paragraph 2 of Saanich Bylaw 8092 or he could be subject to a Municipal Ticket.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  66. 1923
    Kathy, Saanich

    Are big trucks allowed to back up our driveway so they can turn around? I’m talking about those big heavy trucks that deliver lumber, oil, water bottles, like that. We live on a dead end street with a too-small turnaround. We’ve asked some of them not to use our driveway and have been told they have a right. (We’ve also been sworn at, fingered, etc.)
    We’ve already had to replace the driveway once at a cost of several thousand dollars. We just want to know if we have the right to limit access to our property to prevent damage. By the way, Saanich garbage trucks and the recycle guy back up the length of the street to avoid using anyone’s driveway. Thanks.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Kathy,

    There is no law under the Motor Vehicle Act that prevents a vehicle from using your driveway to turn around.  You do have the right to limit access to your property if you wish by putting up a gate.  It is important to remember that the gate can not be on the boulevard portion of your driveway, because the boulevard is owned by the municipality and no permanent structure can be building on it. 

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  67. 1922
    Bruce, Saanich

    Frequently, myself and several neighbours are disturbed and woken up by very loud motorcyles that are barreling up Mckenzie. Often it happens early in the morning. I can only imagine the hundreds of families that are woken up by these bikes. I’m not talking about the ordinary motorcycles that are tolerably loud but the ones that have been modified to ampify the ratatattat noise. I find it far more disturbing than second hand cigarette smoke and yet I see little if anything done about it by the police. I recall last year reading an article in the Saanich News that police were cracking down on these bikes by giving them a $300 plus fine and taking their bikes off the road until they are modified back to a regular motorcycle noise. A few questions:

    1. are the police taking any action on this issue this year?
    2. how many tickets have you issued this year on this offence relative to the same time last year?
    3. have you done any information campaigns about this issue in newspapers as you did last year?
    4. will you start taking more aggressive and sustained action on this problem?

    I sincerely hope that you start take serious action on this problem. The number of people and kids lives that are adversely affected by such bikes is far larger than I believe is realized by the police. I think the Saanich Police has an excellent force and I am looking forward to your response. Thanks for your time.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Bruce:

    We, the Saanich Police, do not have any focused enforcement projects in place for the offence that you mentioned.  I do not have the statistics available to me for how many violation tickets were issued for loud mufflers in 2009/2010 nor after speaking to a Traffic Safety Unit Sergeant do we commonly release those statistics.

    This type of offence is very difficult to enforce because of the frequency of the offences and a member has to be in the area when it occurs, because if they are not the motorcycle is usually gone when they arrive.  What I would recommend doing, which is a bit more work on your part, is collect the times and days of the week that it most affects you.  Also include how many motorcycles and submit those to the Traffic Safety Unit via email, traffic@saanichpolice.ca, for their consideration for future enforcement projects.  

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD 

  68. 1921
    Tom, Saanich

    I have a parking question. There are busy 2 lane roads (1 lane each way) near where I live (Torquay & Kenmore). Once or twice a week someone decides to park on Torquay and remains there for 3 or more hours. All the homes nearby have driveways that have space for another vehicle, but they choose to park in the road instead. This results in traffic congestion and some near collisions as 2 way traffic must funnel through 1 1/3 lanes. The roadway has a center line and clearly there is no space to park while not disrupting traffic flow. Is parking is this manner legal ? Will police respond if they are called about this ? What action will police take ?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tom sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

    Section 189 (1) of the Motor Vehicle Act outlines when vehicles are prohibited from parking on a roadway.  It is difficult for me to give a fair answer on the legality of the parking without seeing the vehicle myself.  If the vehicle is causing a safety hazard for other motorist you can call the non-emergency line, 250-475-4321, to have a police officer or parking enforcement officer attend the location and assess it.

    If the vehicle is deemed to be parked unsafe then it can be towed.

    Hope that help.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  69. 1920
    Sarah, Saanich

    I live in Saanich and am getting married in August. How do I go about getting a criminal record check and fingerprinting for my name change?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi

    If you are a Saanich residence then you would simple come into the Saanich Police front counter and ask for a Criminal Record Check and Fingerprints for a name change.  All the forms are available at the front counter or you can print the Criminal Record Check off before hand by going through the link on our home page.  There is a fee of $50 associated which is payable by way of cash, cheque, money order or debit.

    Be aware you will have to bring two pieces of identification with you.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  70. 1919
    Evan saanch

    is there any where like a range that people can fire bb guns

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Evan,

    Sorry I don’t know where there is a dedicated pellet gun range.  You could call one of the local firearm/rifle ranges and ask them if they have any information.

    Good luck.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  71. 1918
    Shauna, Langford

    Hi,

    This may not be the best place to ask this question but I wanted to know how someone would go about getting a job as a receptionist for a police station or as a 911 operator.

    Thanks

    Saanich Police Response: 

    Hi Shauna,

    If you want to apply with the Records Section of the Saanich Police you can email Carla Baehler with an attached resume at cbaehler@saanichpolice.ca.  For a position in Telecommunication you would have to drop off a resume for Sgt L.MAKAREWICH.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  72. 1917
    Dave,Saanich

    Hi We live near Mckenzie and the Pat Bay Hwy,the noise from vehicles with no mufflers is getting to be a large problem. This morning it started at 4.30 am with a motor cycle. We have trucks that are using exhaust brakes,when there is no need to use. We have all the rules but enforcment is a problem.
    Certain times of the day are worse than others. Early morning comuters to work, and from 3.00 pm to 6.00pm on hot days. It sure would help to enjoy my property without loud noise from people who are breaking the laws .
    Dave

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Dave,

    I could see how the noise could be a problem, but our Traffic Safety Unit and the Integrated Road Safety Unit do extensive enforcement on the Pat Bay Highway.  We do not have the man power to keep a member committed to that area everyday between those times because our Traffic Safety Unit also attends collisions outside of their normal enforcement.  I will forward your concerns to the Traffic Safety Unit for their information.

    Sorry we couldn’t help more. 

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

     

  73. 1916
    MckInnon, Saanich

    Hello There,

    I have found myself the target of a neighbor whom seems to have a vendetta against motorcycles. The neighbor in question feels as through the neighborhood is his and has has made it very clear that he thinks that my motorcycle is too loud to both me and some of the surrounding neighbors.

    However it is running the stock, DOT approved muffler that meets BC standards for noise. I was riding next to an officer last night and he seemed to have NO ISSUE with the bike or the Db level it produced. I am a safe driver with no infractions on my record in the last 7 years. I do not drive dangerously or speed.

    My question is how do I avoid further bother from this individual as he made it clear he has contact Bylaw enforcement? and will contact the police? I do not want to be know as a bad individual or have these reports on my name or my record. I do not want to be harassed by bylaw enforcement or police continually as he seems determined.

    I do NOT want this to become an issue and would like advise on my options?
    Would an officer need to listen to my bike and see that it is stock so that any complaints could be blocked from record?

    Thank you

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello Mckinnon,

    I would start by having a civil conversation with your neighbour to ensure that he knows that muffler meets all BC standards for noise.  You will have to make an assessment if your neighbour would be receptive to that conversation.  Do not get into an argument and if you are feeling the conversation is getting heated walk away. 

    I would then make an assessment after to see if the issues are resolved.  If the neighbour did contact Bylaw Enforcement or the Saanich Police then a member would come and check the muffler to confirm it is functioning within the specified standards.  The member would then document all his/her findings on a police report.  That report would then receive a retention date and after that date it would be purged.

    It is important to remember that both sides are captured on that police report.

    I hope that is of some help to you and if you have any more concerns or issues you can always call the Front Desk Officer for assistance.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  74. 1915
    Calvin, Saanich

    Hello,

    Someone told me it is illegal to drive in bare feet, is this true? I wear sandals and find that I have more control if I slide one of them off to drive.

    Thanks!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Calvin,

    There is currently no law in British Columbia that prohibits driving a motor vehicle in bare feet.  I don’t recommend it because you have a larger contact point with the break pedal when you are wearing shoes.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  75. 1914
    Mark Saanich

    I was wondering why some right turns are yield and some aren’t even when there is a stop sign where a yield should be and vice versa. I mean how are they determined. I see an intersection wth one yield and wonder why they all don’t have it.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Interesting question Mark.

    There are a lot of factors that go into the decision making process of deciding whether a yield or stop sign should be placed at a specific location.  Some of those factors are speed of the roadway you are entering, is there a merge lane or is there a dedicated turn off lane like Burnside Rd W and McKenzie Ave.  The Engineering Department at the Municipal Hall handles the decision making process on whether a yield or stop sign will be erected.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  76. 1913
    Pete, Saanich

    Are we allowed to use a pellet gun to scare away rabbits and deers in our garden?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Thanks for the question Pete.  No you are not allowed to scare away rabbits or deer that are in your garden by shooting them with a pellet gun.  Saanich Bylaw 8092, paragraph 2, outlines that no person shall discharge any firearm within the Municipality of Saanich except for the reasons listed in that bylaw.

    Hopefully you can find an alternative.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  77. 1912
    Cathy, Victoria

    Hi Cst. Underwood,

    I’m troubled that the members of any police force are forced to deal with individuals that have replicas of any type of gun. Can replicating guns not be stopped by the original manufacturer on what other companies are replicating. I mean, I think Mattell would be all over someone else if they replicated ‘Barbie’ (if in fact it is Mattell that creates her). Wouldn’t the paten that the originating company has be enough to stop others from creating replica hand guns. If for nothing else…to support the safety of our police officers? Just doesn’t seem right to me.

    Cathy

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Cathy,

    Thanks for the support!  It is very difficult to stop the sale/manufacturing of replica pellet guns or air soft guns.  A large majority of these are likely manufactured over seas and in the US where laws of possession/sale might be different.  Replica pellet guns are likely modified enough in size, function and material that they avoid any paten issues.

    People need to realize that as police we have a split second to make a determination on the street, in a high stress situation (possibly in limited lighting), if the “firearm” that is being carried is a replica pellet gun.  Therefore we request for the safety of everyone that has one to leave them at home and not to carry them on the street or in parks where the general public might see you!

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  78. 1911
    Brett, Langford

    Hi,

    Do the police use police vehicles disguised as work trucks, etc? I guess if you did you wouldn’t tell.

    Saanich Police Response: 

    Hello Brett, and thank you for your question. We use all sorts of vehicles depending on the type of investigation. Unfortunately we are not in a position to confirm what those vehicles might be. It appears you may have answered your own question.

    Regards,

    Sgt. D. Jantzen

  79. 1910
    P.B, Parksville,b.c.

    Hi,
    I am wondering about your “integrated services” and how and why they travel to places like Parksville b.c. to conduct roadside counterattack programs .
    * For instance , is a RCMP member to be on-site during this operation, and are members to identify their Municiple Jurisdiction ?
    * If a License is taken for 24 hours, what safe guards are in place to ensure that the license remains in the Resident’s home-district.
    * If the license is taken all the way back to saanich, how and where is it returned ?
    * If a 24 hour suspension is given, is there a policy or avenue or obligation of the Officer to inform the Driver ” that a comprehensive test is available to the driver without prejudice “if driver feels he/she is not physically impaired ?
    * The current roadside screening device is only a “chemical measuring device based on breathe” ; it does not actually measure one’s physical ability to continue to drive if found inthe “Warn Zone” , nor does the current Or future changes in the act allow another family member to park the vehicle overnight elsewhere if this offense is a First Time Only for the driver in question.
    It all appears very “controlling” & punitive if the situation is only a “Warn”.
    [ I have no concerns about the officers, they appear to be very courteous ].

    p.b.
    July 13-2010.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi P.B,

    Since you have forwarded multiple questions I will answer them in point form:

    1) The south island Integrated Road Safety Unit joined the other island units to conduct a large scale counterattack because of the high number of impaired drivers that are currently on the roadway.  There is a reciprocal agreement that enforcement will also be conducted in Victoria.

    2) There are several Integrated Road Safety Units throughout the island and a RCMP member does not have to be present at the counterattack because a municipal police officer can police anywhere in British Columbia.

    3/4) If a 24hr Prohibition was issued by a south island unit member the driver’s licence was taken back to Victoria for processing.  A BC driver’s licence is owned by the province, not the person, and it will be mailed back to person after a 24hr period has elapsed.  This is to ensure that there is proper continuity of the driver’s licence and it is not simply left at another police department.

    5) At the time the 24hr Prohibition is issued the driver should be advised that they can dispute it.  If the driver disputes the 24hr Prohibition then another breath sample would be taken on a BAC Datamaster “C”. 

    People that drive impaired often think they are not physically impaired at the time, but that is when serious collisions causing bodily harm or death occur.

    6) The Superintendent of the Motor Vehicle Branch has set the parameters that any person found driving a motor vehicle with a blood alcohol level between 50mg% and 80mg% will be issued a 24hr Prohibition.  You might find this “controlling” but it is to help ensure the safety of the general public and prevent serious collision.

    7) The Superintendent has also outlined that a motor vehicle will be impounded for a 24hr period to ensure that the person issued the 24hr Prohibition does not return to his vehicle with a second set of keys and drive again.  This has happened in the past and innocent people have been injured. 

    I hope all your questions have been answered.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  80. 1909
    jim, Saanich

    Hi

    Are folks allowed to park their boats on the street for days at a time, even though their trailers may be licensed ?

    If not, who can i contact to advise about a boat parked on the street for extended periods of time ?

    Thanks.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Thank you for the enquiry. There are several by-laws which regulate parking in our municipality.

    Saanich Street and Traffic Regulation Bylaw No. 8382 (section 7.10 (i)) outlines that no personal vehicle shall be “stored” on a highway except where repairs are necessitated by an emergency.  “Stored” as defined in the bylaw is parking or leaving a vehicle on a highway for any period in excess of 72 consecutive hours.  Please refer to Bylaw No. 8382 for further details.  If you are having any issues with parking infractions you can always contact our Parking Enforcement member at 250-475-4321.

    Hope that helps.

    Response by Sgt. D. Jantzen

  81. 1908
    Sam, Victoria

    Hello.

    I regularly observe that taxi and BC Transit operators drive their vehicles as if they have a special exemption from having to follow the speed limits. Could you please confirm if this is the case?

    Also, not long after the safety blitz at the intersection of Shelbourne and Hillside I observed an officer in a blue, unmarked Tahoe vehicle accelerate for a yellow turn arrow instead of slowing down in observation of the same laws that were being enforced just a few weeks earlier.

    Since the officer was hiding behind the anonymity of an unmarked vehicle, I was unable to determine which police department he worked for. Please remember that the police should be setting an example for other drivers and shouldn’t be breaking the rules - especially at the highest crash location in Victoria which was very recently the focus of a rather large safety campaign.

    Thanks.

    Saanich Police Reponse:

    Hi Sam,

    No, there are no special exemptions for BC Transit drivers or taxi drivers.  They are both required to follow the Motor Vehicle Act and its Regulations.  Regarding the unmarked police vehicle proceeding through a yellow light I can not confirm which police department the vehicle is related to without knowing the intersection and the licence plate.  We as police do attempt to set the best example possible, but I can not speak to the member’s actions because I do not know if they might have been attending a call for service that required a bit more urgency.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  82. 1907
    Ken, Victoria/Saanich

    I am Curious as to how one works to change Bylaws within Saanich. I believe the Firearms discharge bylaw is in need of updating, due to all these incidents with Police and people with Air soft toys, and pellet Rifles.

    Yes Replica’s are Prohibited under Firearm law, and the item from Wednesdays incident is most likely a Replica. But an air gun firing under 152.4 meters or 500 feet per second is not a firearm. However the Bylaw considers them “Firearms”

    I think Saanich residents should be able to enjoy their Air soft, Pellet/BB gun in their back yard, as long as they are being safe and responsible. And such a act should not warrant a major police call and the possibility of the ERT being deployed.

    The Hoplophobia today is astounding, I hope perhaps we can find some way to reverse this trend.

    Also if someone was involved in a Self Defense shooting and it was found justified would they still be subject to the $100 fine?

    thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ken,

    Regarding the changing of any municipal by-laws you will have to forward your request to the by-laws section of the municipal hall.  Municipal Council is responsible for the creation or change of any municipal bylaw.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  83. 1906
    SMUN

    I’m wondering why there isn’t an advance left turn signal on the corner of Fort and Cook, turning up Fort, until 11am???? The advance left turn signal is needed during rush hour most of all.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Smun,

    You will have to forward your question to the engineering department of the City of Victoria, because the intersection of Fort and Cook is within their jurisdiction.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  84. 1905
    Adrian, Saanich

    Hello,
    Has the Saanich Police Department ever considered (and maybe cannot based on resources) having a cold case page on its website? For example, the Vancouver Police Department have one (link removed by administrator) and I think that the idea is superb.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Adrian,

    Having a cold case page is a great idea.  We do have an Unsolved Crimes portion to our web site and we also have a media page that relays recent solved and unsolved crimes.  We at the Saanich Police Department are beginning to look at updating/remodelling our web site and when we do each page will likely be enhanced including the Unsolved Crimes portion, but resources always have to be a consideration.

    Thanks for your recommendation.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  85. 1904
    Chris, Langford

    Thanks for your reply Cst Underwood. I have noticed this in Saanich as well as I drive through the municipality often. Would I be in my right to report this offence?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Chris,

    The noise suppression portion of the bylaws is more used for neighbourhood issues that are ongoing rather than for someone who is simply driving through Saanich.  By reporting someone who is driving through Saanich there is a high likelihood that the offending vehicle will be in another municipality by the time a patrol member attends.  This type of bylaw complaint would also be a lower call priority than a Criminal Code offence that has occurred or is in progress, thus having a slower call response.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD  

  86. 1903
    Chris, Langford

    Hello. I haven’t asked a question for while so I figured it was about time :o )

    Is there any bylaw prohibiting loud music from car radios / cd players? With the summer weather and people driving with their windows down and their car radios cd players blazing is a bit annoying. Sometimes, the music is so loud, I can’t even carry on a conversation with a passenger sitting right beside me.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Chris,

    I have noted that you live in Langford so you will have to check your local by-laws, but the Municipality of Saanich does have a Noise Suppression By-Law, No. 7059, that limits noise.  Section 2, subsection (a), of that bylaw outlines that no person shall make or cause to be made any noise or sound in or on a highway or elsewhere in the Municipality which causes a disturbance.  For exact wording refer to the above link.

    Enjoy the summer.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  87. 1902
    Carolyn, Saanich

    Hi!

    I just moved here from the Vancouver area, and I am finding the drivers here surprisingly aggressive. Where can I learn about street-crossing bylaws, etc?
    I was crossing at an intersection on a busy road today. There was no painted crosswalk, so I waited for a break in traffic. There was a car coming that had plenty of time to stop for me, but instead he swerved around and yelled at me, “ever heard of a crosswalk?” In Vancouver, pedestrians have the right of way, whether there is a painted crosswalk or not. That said, obviously we don’t want to jaywalk and abuse this right. What are the rules in Saanich?

    Thanks!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello Carolyn,

    The traffic laws are the same whether you are in Vancouver, Victoria or anywhere else in British Columbia.  The definition of a crosswalk is found in Section 119 of the Motor Vehicle Act (MVA), it basically states that all intersections are crosswalks whether they are marked or un-marked.  Section 179 of the MVA, Rights of way between vehicle and pedestrian, outlines that a pedestrian must not leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle that is so close it is impracticable for the driver to yield the right of way.  Once the pedestrian is in the crosswalk, marked or un-marked, a driver of a vehicle must yield the right of way.

    I hope that is of some assistance.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  88. 1901
    Sue Saanich

    I noticed that VTEC has put up stop signs on Markham Rd. to stop traffic on Markham Rd and give the right of way to their parking lot. Is this normal and is it permittable for anyone to put up stop signs for their own benefit?

    Saanich Police Response: 

    Hi Sue,

    Sorry for the delay in answering your question I had to conduct some research first.  The section of Markham St in front of the Vancouver Island Technology Park is a private roadway.  Therefore Vancouver Island Technology Park can erect a stop sign where appropriate to assist in controlling vehicular traffic.  Since that intersection is a “T” intersection a stop sign is definitely needed to prevent vehicle collisions. 

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  89. 1900
    kristey

    Last night I saw a Saanich Police officer tending to something on the side of the road on Shelbourne.Not thinking anything of it I went to bed,around 15 minutes ago two police officers pulled over in the same spot and blocked off traffic and shot an injured fawn,I’m wondering if this was a fawn that was hit last night and left by another officer alone and injured all night.

    Saanich Police Response,

    Hi Kristey,

    Regarding you seeing another police vehicle in the area where you saw the injured fawn put down; it is difficult to research other police vehicles activities, that are not on a call, without the times you saw them.  We at the Saanich Police deal with numerous hit deer through the course of a year and we make all efforts to ensure that a deer does not suffer.  There were no other call tickets for an injured deer in that area on July 3rd or 4th that I could find.  There was one on Shelbourne St at Pear but that deer had already passed and was pulled off the roadway.

    I don’t think a member would have left a deer to suffer.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  90. 1899
    Victor,Saanich

    Good Morning!

    Thank you for taking the time to respond to yet another post - I really appreciate all the information you’ve dredged up for my random questions. I have one more (for now!).

    Some time ago I wrote in about my suspicion of a person engaged in drug related activities and was given the name and e-mail of one of your detectives. I have not heard back (although I know the e-mail was received). I was hoping I could be put back in touch with that person, with the view to finding out if anything ever came of it…Thanks!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi again Victor,

    Regarding a reply from a certain investigator about your complaint I would recommend calling the member’s voice mail as well as sending another email requesting a reply.  Just keep in mind that the member might have been on leave or depending on if the member is part of the Street Crime Unit they do work altered schedules and are out of the office a lot because of the nature of their job.  I am not sure how long ago you filed your complaint.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD 

  91. 1898
    Gonzalez, Saanich

    when you receive a complaint of a speeder or other offender from an observer, how do you investigate something like that? forgive me for being blunt, but the old proverb “cop didnt see it, I didnt do it” would seem to apply here… i dont think you can issue a ticket soely based on one persons complaint….

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning Gonzalez,

    Regarding your traffic complaint you can call the Saanich Police non-emergency line, 250-475-4321, to file your complaint and you will have to provide a written statement as well.  Then once that complaint is received it will be forwarded to our Traffic Safety Unit for review and enforcement.  Depending on the information provided and the alleged offence a violation ticket can be issued in some circumstances.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  92. 1897
    Thomas, Saanich

    Hi, I was wondering if the Saanich Police have announced a winner for the iPod Touch. The iPod Touch was for the survey on how the Saanich Police could improve or how they’re doing. Have they announced a winner because I entered and I would really like that iPod Touch.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Thomas,

    Yes we have announced the winners of the iPod Touches!  You can find the list of winners under the Strategic Plan link on the left side of our home page.

    Thank you for participating in the Community Survey it was greatly appreciated.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  93. 1896
    Ella

    Is there an email address for the Saanich Police Department? Or is this the only means of contacting someone online?

    Saanich Police Reponse:

    Good morning Ella,

    You can contact individual members through their personal work email and then depending on the specialty sections within the police department there are also group emails available.  This depends on who or what type of assistance you are looking for.  If you want to email me at dunderwood@saanichpolice.ca for further assistance feel free.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  94. 1895
    carolyn saanich

    could you inform me what the parking restrictions on residential streets are. How long is a private individual or even a business vehicle allowed to park at such.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello Carolyn,

    Saanich Street and Traffic Regulation Bylaw No. 8382 (section 7.10 (i)) outlines that no personal vehicle shall be “stored” on a highway except where repairs are necessitated by an emergency.  “Stored” as defined in the bylaw is parking or leaving a vehicle on a highway for any period in excess of 72 consecutive hours.  Please refer to Bylaw No. 8382 for further details.  If you are having any issues with parking infractions you can always contact our Parking Enforcement member at 250-475-4321.

    Hope that helps.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  95. 1894
    md

    can a person wiht a suspended drivers licence drive on private property without getting in trouble. Also if they drove another persons car on someone private property would the suspended driver get in trouble?
    thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Md,

    Regarding driving on private property with a suspended licence please refer to Section 90.4 of the Motor Vehicle Act, Driving While Suspended.  That section outlines that a person commits an offence if they drive a motor vehicle on a highway or industrial road while knowing that they are suspended.  The definition of highway and industrial road does not apply to private property where the general public does not have right of access, however if the person is prohibited under the Criminal Code private property would apply.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  96. 1893
    mk

    I was reading an article on a motorcycle accident in Montreal. It said a motorcylcist hit a car travelling ahead of them whent he car suddenly stopped for animals in the road. Then the polcie are saying she might be charged. How can you charge someone who had the right to stop. The motorcycle should have left enough time to stop. An officer in the TC article said you do not stop unless it is safe to do so. So they are implying you have to compensate for someone doing the wrong thing by following to close? So you’re supposed to hit say a deer if you don’t think the person tailgating you can stop in time?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi MK,

    Coming to an abrupt stop on a roadway is dangerous to you and the vehicles behind you, especially if travelling at highway speeds.  It is important to remember that action is faster than reaction and if a driver suddenly stops at highway speed even if the vehicle behind is not tailgating it could possibly cause a collision.

    I would not recommend stopping to avoid hitting a deer, especially at highway speeds, with other vehicles behind you.  If you are travelling at 3:00am and there is no vehicular traffic behind or around you then my opinion might change.  I would only recommend stopping if you were going to hit a “large” animal that might cause you serious bodily harm.  No one wants to hit a deer but having some vehicle damage instead of human casualty is the only option.

    I have provided a link to ICBC for their recommendations on emergency strategies.

    The Candiac, Quebec situation is extremely sad. 

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  97. 1892
    Chris, Saanich

    I am currious as to how one might request more traffic inforcement (speed) on Tattersall Drive (Quadra to Blanshard) it seems that more and more speeds are approaching 80km/hr. I realize the posted limit is 50 km/hr but it seems to be out of control lately. Also, how does one petetion to have the posted limit lowered? I am aware that the city is planning on upgrading Tattersall as a result of the mall development but in the meantime we who live on this street are all in danger.

    Thanks,

    Chris

    Saanich Police Response:

    Happy Canada Day Chris,

    Regarding enhanced traffic enforcement on Tattersall Drive, I will forward your complaint to the S/Sgt of the Traffic Safety Unit for consideration.  To get the posted speed limit lowered you would have to speak to the Engineering Department at the Saanich Municipal Hall, 250-475-1775.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  98. 1891
    Brett, Langford

    Hi,

    In regard to posting #1884, it says someone would be exempt from the distracted driving law if they used their cellphone to call about the legitimacy of a police officer. Does that mean if I witness a hit and run and the the person is driving away, I can speed to catch up to him enough to get his license plate and then of course I’d slow down after and phone the police with the information. Would I be exempt from a speeding ticket if the police saw?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Brett,

    Regarding your question we do not authorize anyone to speed up and exceed the posted speed limit to obtain a licence plate, because you can imagine the inherent dangers associated with different peoples driving abilities.  If a person can obtain the licence plate number safely and legally then that can be relayed to police.

    I have provided a link to the Distracted Driving page of our web site for further reading on the use of a cellular phone while driving a motor vehicle.

    Great question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  99. 1890
    Penny, Saanich

    Considering that we are so concerned with motorist distractions, why are cyclists allowed to text and listen to their iPods while cycling in traffic? This one was all over the road while doing these things. Also, since cyclists do not stop at stop signs, I thought it would have been prudent of him to at least look to see if a car was approaching. I expect the oncoming motorist would have been at fault if there had have been an accident.

    If these things are violations, maybe it is time that we had a bit of a crack down. It would be a good time, now that the kids have just gotten out of school. (This was no child, though. It was a man in his thirties, on a very nice bike.)

    I’m also bothered by the great lack of courtesy that cyclists show to pedestrians, but I don’t expect there is much you can do about that.

    Thank you for your attention to this.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello Penny,

    Your question is multi faceted so I will break my response down to point form:

    1) Cyclists text messaging and riding all over the road – There are two infractions under the Motor Vehicle Act that police could apply: Careless Cycling, Section 183(14) and Cycle Without Reasonable Consideration, Section 183(14)(a).  Before issuing a violation ticket the officer would have to analyze all the evidence and then exercise his discretion.

    2) Cyclist at a stop sign – Yes cyclists have to stop at a stop sign or they can be subject to a fine under Fail to Obey Stop Sign, Section 186 of the Motor Vehicle Act.

    3) Regarding a “crack down” – I do know that our Traffic Safety Unit, Patrol Division and School Liaison Officers do monitor cycling violations and issue Violation Tickets where appropriate.

    4) Cyclist and Pedestrians -  Section 179(1) of the Motor Vehicle Act does apply for Fail to Yield to Pedestrian.

    Penny you can also go to Bike Sense BC and review the section called Cyclists and the Law to gather more information.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  100. 1889
    Sunny,Saanich

    Hi, Ive been using this local Victoria used classifieds website, and i have noticed this ad of this seller who will modify your game console to play backups of video games, now this is not a new ad i have seen this for over a year now, i recently read an article on the RCMP website that said ” Modifying a console and computer is considered an illegal act under Section 342.1 of the Criminal Code and is punishable by imprisonment for up to ten years. ” “http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/qc/nouv-news/com-rel/2010/04/100401a-eng.htm , is this illegalÉ

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sunny,

    Interesting question!  Upon reading the RCMP article that you provided and the Criminal Code it appears to me that the simple modification of a gaming console is not illegal to play “backups” of video games that are lawfully owned by you.  The modification of a gaming console to play counterfeit video games is illegal.

    I have provided a link to the definition of Offence Related Property and Section 342.1 of the Criminal Code if you would like to do some further reading on the subject.

    Thanks.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  101. 1888
    Victor, Saanich

    Re: Post 1884 - While I’m admittedly unaware of the differences between vehicle laws in BC and Alberta, would the off-duty constable not be much in the same position as, say, an off-duty cabbie providing transport for hire in his own private vehicle? Or perhaps an off-duty paratrooper deciding to go through the lines on his own and run amok?

    I was taught (and will do the same for my own children) not to stop or yield myself or my vehicle to any person not in either a) recognizeable uniform, or b) an recognizeable enforcement vehicle, albeit in mufti. In essence, if it’s not equipped with the right kind of warning devices (lights, sirens), it’s not an emergency or enforcement vehcile, and likely not equiped to safely handle emergency procedures.

    I would politely remind your friend that he was lucky to receive a speeding ticket from his unknown stopper, rather than something significantly worse, like a car-jacking.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Victor,

    Regarding your comparison it is a bit inaccurate, a police officer can put themselves on duty at any time which is drastically different from an off-duty cabbie or paratrooper.

    I am glad to see we agree if there is any question to the legitimacy of the officer it is better to drive directly to a police station or call 911 on your cellular phone.

    Thanks for writing in.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  102. 1887
    Mel, Saanich

    We are new to Saanich and are wondering if we can light our outdoor chiminea? Are there any by-laws restricting the use of backyard firepits and chimineas?? Thanks so much!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello Mel,

    The short answer for lighting an outdoor chiminea in Saanich is no.  Saanich Fire Prevention Bylaw No. 8807 (subsection 24) outlines open air fires.  The rural areas of Saanich can burn garden waste between October and April, but only with a permit issued by the Saanich Fire Department.

    Great question though, have a good summer.


    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  103. 1886
    Joe Saanich

    I live on Admirals road and I am wondering what the engine brake law is in Saanich Trucks run their jakes all the way down Mckenzie towards the highway at all hours of the day and night. This is a residential neighbourhood and should not be an area where trucks should be running engine brakes

    Saanich Police Response:


    Hi Joe,

    You are correct that it is against the Saanich Municipal By-Law #7059 (section 7.1) for a truck to run their engine retardant brakes in the municipality, except to assist in stopping or slowing down the vehicle in an emergency.  I would recommend documenting what the primary infraction times are and submit them to the Traffic Safety Unit for consideration on enhanced enforcement.  I am not sure if you were able to document the company names because then you could contact them regarding your complaint as well.

    Thanks for the question.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD 

  104. 1885
    Adrian, Saanich

    Regarding Cst. Underwood’s response (#1876) to Linda’s question about idling buses on Mt. Tolmie, I would like to offer a correction. While there is no District of Saanich bylaw prohibiting the idling of vehicles, CRD Bylaw No. 3533 ‘A Bylaw to Promote Clean Air by Regulating Motor Vehicle Idling’ would in fact apply to Mt. Tolmie, or anywhere within the jurisdiction of the Saanich for that matter. The bylaw defines idling as the ‘operation of a vehicle engine while the vehicle is not in motion’ and it is an infraction to idle for more than three consecutive minutes. In addition, there would appear to be no exemption for tour buses. Therefore, I believe that Linda should file further complaints with the CRD Bylaw Enforcement Office, correct?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Adrian (and Linda),

    Thank you so much for bringing that to our attention. I will take the blame for our misinformed answer under #1876. We were not aware of the CRD bylaw that you refer to, and were only aware of the lack of a Saanich anti-idling bylaw. I am very happy to hear that such a bylaw exists and that it covers the entire Capital Regional District. To report any CRD Bylaw infractions please follow this link to the CRD Bylaw Enforcement webpage.

    Again, I apologize for the mistake and thank you very much for the correction. Enjoy the sunshine!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  105. 1884
    Jeff, Saanich

    Hello, recently a friend was told to pull over by an off-duty officer flashing his badge through his moving, personal vehicle. He complied and received a ticket for his reckless driving habits (this occurred in Alberta, not in Saanich, by the way).

    It made me wonder though if a citizen is legally obligated to pull over if an off duty officer is waving his badge in his personal vehicle. I know officers have just as much authority off-duty as on, but how could a normal person know if it were just some nutcase or car jacker waving a fake badge around?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jeff,

    We, as police officers, should never fault anyone for taking steps to protect their own safety when the legitimacy of a police officer is in question. The circumstance involving your friend is definitely outside of the norm and your friend would have been within his rights if he had chosen to drive to a police station or another safe public place before pulling over. Another option is to call the police from within the car, again before pulling over, to confirm that this “police officer” is in fact a police officer. Using your cell phone while driving under these circumstances would make you excempt from any “distracted driving” legislation infractions.

    Thanks for writing in. It’s a good question and a point that I hope everyone keeps in mind. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  106. 1883
    Vali Stone

    I am the author of the book “Cops Don’t Cry” and I am in the process of writing a new book called “Nine-One-One”. If you have a story to tell, or know of someone, please read the information below and pass it along. I am especially interested in stories from your area.
    Please be so kind as to return my message and let me know you have sent it along.
    Thank you
    Vali Stone
    Author

    LOOKING FOR YOUR STORY!!!!!!

    Are you in the emergency response (911) profession? This is a wonderful opportunity to get YOUR story written and published.

    I am looking for police officers, firefighters, paramedics, military, military police and dispatchers, correctional officers, PSW, first response chaplains, doctors and nurses who have inspirational, true stories that will open the minds and hearts of the readers.

    The most powerful stories are about our 911 heroes extending themselves, or performing an act of love, service or courage for another person and that is you!!! Tell me your story, whether it be emotion, drama, regret, or with humour.

    Please e-mail valistone@hotmail.com or call (905) 715-8560 and leave your full name and phone number and I will contact you.
    The story can be written with your name or a pseudonym.
    Vali Stone
    Author/Cops Don’t Cry

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Vali,
    Thanks for visiting our website.  We have disseminated your email to all the membership and if any members are feeling comfortable in sharing their experiences they have been advised to email you directly.
    Good luck with your future book.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  107. 1882
    Brendon, Saanich

    Hi, I am wanting to become a police officer with saanich after i finish the criminal justice program at camosun. I was wondering if there was any type of volunteer work that I could get started on with saanich police on weekends? I am aware of some opportunities during the week days but with my current job i’m unable to volunteer for it.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Brendon, thanks for writing in.

    You are welcome to contact our Volunteer Coordinator, Ian Gibbs, at 250 475 4314 to enquire about any volunteer possibilities. In addition, there is the Reserve Constable Program, which you may already be familiar with. S/Sgt. Doug Newman, in Community Liaison, oversees the reserve program and can tell you more about the program and when we expect to be recruiting. Lastly, Sgt. Dean Duthie in Staff Development is happy to offer advice on how to best prepare and strengthen your application for police constable.

    Hope this helps and I wish you all the best in your endeavours!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  108. 1881
    Eric, New Zealand

    I am currently living in New Zealand under a student VISA. When applying for this VISA I had provided a criminal record check obtained through the Saanich Police. I am currently being asked to provide a new certificate from the RCMP. I have submitted fingerprints, certified check etc. from overseas to Ottawa three months ago but as of two weeks ago it had not reached their system. I may travelling to Victoria for my brother’s wedding in mid July but only for 10 days. Is it possible to obtain this certificate through the Saanich Police department

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Eric, thanks for writing in.

    Yes, you will be able to make arrangements to have a criminal record check completed with us when you are in town provided Saanich was your last place of residence in Canada. To do so you will need to get in touch with either Cst. Tanya Campbell or Cst. Berle Zwaan (they are both responsible for conducting criminal record checks for Saanich Police). You can reach Tanya and Berle at 250 475 4352 or Admindesk@saanichpolice.ca. I suggest that you contact Tanya and Berle as soon as possible in order to minimize any possible delays when you are in Victoria.

    Hope all is well down under.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  109. 1880
    Sarah, Victoria

    Hello - I have been reading through a few pages of these and have seen some recruit candidates posting about their experiences training for POPAT and how they’re moving through the process. I would love to connect with recruits as I am just starting the application process (hurray!). Are there any groups that you know of or any way to connect with other recruit candidates? Thanks!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sarah,

    We currently do not have a candidates group communication site for candidates that want to share experiences and training techniques.  If you want to contact Sgt. DUTHIE, in Staffing and Development, he might be able to assist you in contacting other applicants.  I have provided a link that has all Sgt. DUTHIE’s contact information.

    Good luck in the hiring process.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  110. 1879
    Brett, Langford

    Does being on probation for trafficking a controlled substance automatically give the police the right to search my car randomly?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Brett,

    In regards to your question it depends what type of probation you are on and what conditions are attached to that court order.  Some conditional sentence orders or probation orders have a condition that specify curfew and search conditions for police.  This question also depends on where you were, what time of night it was and where you were departing from; because this might give the investigating member reasonable and probable grounds or articulable cause to justify the police search.

    Random unjustified searches are unlawful. If you have concerns pertaining to a specific incident you are welcome to contact the officers involved and/or their supervisor in order to discuss the matter further.

    Thanks for writing in.

    Response by Cst. UNDERWOOD

  111. 1878
    Annonymus, Gordon Head

    I appreciate the work the police do, but I felt unhelped this evening when my boyfriend called the non-emergency line to make a noise complaint and also to comment on intoxicated drivers leaving a party. The cops took a good half hour to get here and then did nothing but talk to a handful of party goers. Not only were there intoxicated persons in the driver seats of about 3 cars, but the party goers didnt disperse or quiet down after the visit from the police. I just wish there was a better way to deal with such a neighborhood disturbance. I don’t appreciate feeling uncomfortable and scared in my own home, which is how I feel when there are people outside yelling at one another with foul language. I also feel that when theres people pouring out on the street with open liquor, it just spells trouble and simply saying they have to quiet down, just won’t do. The police were feet away from a driver under the influence. A girl even yelled at the driver to “turn off the car and take the keys out! you’ve been drinkin” at the approach of the officers.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Dear Anonymous:

    It is difficult for me speak to the officers actions at a house party when I was not present, but if you have further questions regarding police response you can always speak to one of the attending officers.

    Regarding your concern about call response time, calls are dispatched according to priority, violent offences taking priority of course, and a half an hour call response to a noise complaint on a Saturday is not unreasonable.  We as police do not want the public to feel unsafe in their own home and respond to all calls as quickly as possible.

    If you wish to followup with an attending officer you can call 250-475-4321 and ask for the front desk officer who can provide you the names of the attending officers.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  112. 1877
    Jean, Victoria

    A few months ago, someone took my car from my secure condominium parkade. They broke the side window to get inside and hot-wired the ignition with a screwdriver, then drove the vehicle from the parkade. I noticed the car was stolen and phoned police. Since my cellphone was in the car, I contacted the cellphone provider to cancel service and they advised that the phone was being used at the time and provided the phone numbers that were being called. Several hours later, the car mysteriously appeared back in the parkade, damaged and parked in another parking spot. I am suspicious of how the car was removed and returned to the parkade, as a clicker is needed to exit and enter the gate, and my clicker was not in the car.

    The whole incident was reported to the police and my insurance company.

    Last week, I phoned the police department (not Saanich) to follow up. They advised that they could not provide any information to me, that they had called the phone numbers that had been called on my cell phone and the people who answered were not cooperative so they could not do any more. And they ended by saying that insurance had paid for all damages, so why was I concerned?

    In fact, insurance did not pay for all the damage, just wrote the car off. To get the car back I had to pay several thousand dollars to “buy” it back. It was a real hassle.

    I am disappointed that the police will not offer any more information to me. As I said earlier, I wonder how the car was taken and returned from my condominium complex, as it could have been someone who lives in my building. Is there any way that I can receive more information from the police file?

    Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

    Saanich Police Response:

    That is an unfortunate incident, to obtain more information on a police file you will have to contact the investigating department and submit a Freedom of Information request.  This request would allow you to obtain a copy of the file as it was documented by the investigating officer, minus any information that is not releasable under the guidelines of the Freedom of Information Policy.

    Hopefully that provides some assistance.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  113. 1876
    Linda, Saanich

    I live on Mt. Tolmie and it was my impression that the new paved area on the park side of Mayfair Drive below Mt. Tolmie summit was for tour bus parking. I was there at lunch today and there were several buses parked right at the summit, blocking the car parking spots, spewing diesel fumes. (I think we have a law against that too, don’t we?) I did not notice any signage to indicate to bus drivers where they should park. Perhaps that would help with the problem.

    Police Response:

    Appreciate the questions.  Regarding lack of signage at the top of Mt Tolmie all questions can be forwarded to either Eric DIEBERT or Paul BUTTERFIELD, in Engineering Services, at 250-475-5575. 

    In regards to the idling of buses at the top of Mt Tolmie, there is presently no bylaw in the Municipality of Saanich that prohibits such activity at this time.  The next time that you see such activity you could document which bus company is involved and contact them directly in an attempt to help eliminate the unnecessary idling. 

    Have a good summer.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  114. 1875
    Adrian, Saanich

    Hello, how would I go about obtaining the following statistics? (1) crime rate in Saanich from 1995-2010, year by year, (2) traffic offence rates from 1995-2010, (3) per capita policing costs, 1995-2010, and (4) number of residences/neighbourhoods participating in a neighbourhood/blockwatch program, from 1995-2010.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Adrian, thanks for your question.

    I am providing you with a link to the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General webpage where you can find the majority of the statistics that you are looking for. Once at the site click on Police Services (left hand column) to refine your search. If you still have unanswered questions after your research feel free to contact Bob Bigelow who is our Freedom of Information coordinator at 250 475 4307. Bob will be able to assist you in accessing any specific Saanich Police statistics.

    Hope this helps and enjoy your day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  115. 1874
    Josie, Saanich

    I recently became aware of a program called “Park Watch’. What can you tell me about it and where can I get information to start one?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Josie,

    Thanks for your question.  Park Watch is a program designed to encourage the general public to be more vigilant in the reporting of suspicious/criminal activity in our public parks to police and to report any public safety issues to the Parks Department.  To learn more about this program feel free to contact Cst Petra DORNBULT at 250-475-4346.

    Take care and enjoy the summer.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  116. 1873
    Daniel, Saanich

    I have recently been told that I mat not practice my bow and arrow in the Saancih area. I have had one police officer aproach me and double check that it is not a crossbow. Another has told me that I may not shoot there. It is not classified as a weapon, and I cant find any laws against it. I do not wish to break the law, but im unsure of what exactly the law is, or how to find out exactly what the law is. It would be a large inconvenience for me to find another area that is open and allows me to shoot in a safe and responsible manner and feed back would be appreciated.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Daniel,

    Thanks for your question regarding the discharging of a bow and arrow in the Municipality of Saanich.  Unfortunately you did not outline where you were practicing because that is important, but yes you can discharge a bow and arrow but only for recreational purposes on private property.  You do have to ensure that the area is safe before commencing.  You can not practice in a public place because of the inherent dangers associated.

    You will find attached the link to Saanich By-law No. 8092, which regulates the discharge of firearms and bows in the Municipality of Saanich.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  117. 1872
    Cole, Saanich

    Hi,

    I had my car stolen a couple weeks ago and it hasn’t turned up. My insurance agent recommended that I call the police impound lot to check if it has moved there. I was hoping I could get the information in order to get in touch with them.

    Thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Cole,

    Sorry to hear that your vehicle has not turned up!  We at Saanich Police use Totem Towing for all our vehicle tows, impoundments and storage.  Totem Towing is located at 3333 Tennyson Ave, phone number 250-475-3211.  Totem would be able to conduct a vehicle search of their records for you.

    Good Luck.

    Response by Cst UNDERWOOD

  118. 1871
    Arianna, Saanich

    Hi,

    First of all thanks for all the work that you do in keeping our community safe.

    I’m currently working on my Masters degree in Education and have been doing a lot of work in cyberbullying. I was told to ask the poilce department to see if I could volunteer with you to gain experience in bullying prevention.

    How would I go about doing this?

    Thanks! Have a great day!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Arianna, thank you for your thank you! We are very lucky to police in such a community as ours.

    I suggest you give S/Sgt. Doug Newman in Community Liaison a call at 250 475 4347. Doug is in charge of the School Liaison Section who are active in similar programs as yours and would be a good resource to you.

    All the best in your studies!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  119. 1870
    Pat, Saanich

    I’m concerned about the taffic laws covering two situations.

    I was surprised to read that it’s not illegal to cut through a gas station, etc to avoid waiting at a red light. Gas station customers and service personnel are opening car doors, raising car hoods, crossing to and from the payment kiosk, etc. The raised hoods can block the views of customers, workers and cut-through drivers. Anyone who’s in such a hurry to avoid a red light is not going to be in a patient and careful frame of mind. If word gets out that cutting through is allowed, our gas stations will become major thoroughfares at
    I am also surprised that, in BC, it is legal to pass another vehicle at a pedestrian crosswalk. In Ontario and some other provinces, all traffic in both directions must come to a halt when people are in the crosswalk.

    If the police have any input to regulatory reform, I hope these items will be considered.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Pat, thanks for writing in.

    As mentioned in the previous post, it is not illegal to “cut through a gas station”. I, personally, would not encourage such a habit as I feel it is inconsiderate to the business. If someone does so in an unsafe manner, then of course it would become illegal. See Section 179 of the BC Motor Vehicle Act to familiarize yourself with the laws surrounding drivers and pedestrians at a crosswalk. Our laws in BC are similar to Ontario and other provinces in that it is illegal to pass a vehicle that is yielding to a pedestrian.

    Hope this helps and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  120. 1869
    sean,saanich

    Saw this website advertised in a google ads type link on local newspapers website. Its in victoria and sells martial arts type supplies and as they say weapons. Is it actually legal in canada to own police extendable batons? or a baseball they say is tough enough not to break when you hit “anything” so no need to worry about shards, or a cane or stick with hidden sword? Or a ten inch knife? or the parts to assemble your own butterfly knife?

    I kinda assume all these things are sold legally for home use? and shop can just pretend people wont carry these on street? seem questionable morally since mma and martial arts shows on tvs fan base is young men typically. But obviously that isnt illegal to be immoral.

    Will attach website at bottom for police officers viewing allthough i know you need to remove.
    ** removed by site administrator **

    thanks for your persepctive on this in advance, recent stabbings in town has lots of people wondering about young peoples access to such weapons. A problem which obviously would no know boundaries as we know people shop in saanich or victoria no matter where they live.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sean, thanks for your question.

    All such items are legal to possess, however, an assembled butterfly knife is not. How they are transported and used is where the legal items can become illegal. See Section 90 of the Criminal Code which outlines the factors considered in “Carrying a Concealed Weapon”. As well, see Section 84 of the Code for definitions of prohibited weapons. I’m sorry, Sean, I would have provided you with a link but as I write this my connection to the internet is down.

    You are right, it can be a concern who buys these items and for what purpose. But it’s a difficult line to draw when the majority of people interested in such items are interested for perfectly legal reasons such as for ornamental display or for martial arts training.

    We appreciate your comment, Sean, and I hope you have a great day.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  121. 1868
    Heather

    Our pin pad is being replaced today because it is faulty and we have your sticker on our pin pad that says not to remove…..can we have a replacement sticker for the new one?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Heather, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Thank you for your patience.

    To get a replacement sticker for your pinpad please contact Cst. Petra Dornblut in Crime Prevention at 250 475 4346. Petra will be happy to take care of that for you.

    Thanks again and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  122. 1867
    John, Saanich

    Hi;

    Just wanted to say this is a great service, and I appreciate the openness with which queries are responded to.

    But, I suspect not many people in Saanich even know it exists. How about an article in local newspapers to publicize this important service?

    Thanks,

    John

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John, thanks for your kind words and suggestion. I will be sure to pass your post on to our media relations officer for his consideration.

    Enjoy the sunshine!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  123. 1866
    Hildegard

    I was told to report an e-mail we received from a “friend” asking to send money as an emergency. We thought it was a fraud and did not respond, however, informed hotmail as well as Western Union.
    Thanks. Hildegard
    From: ** removed by site administrator**

    Date: June 4, 2010 8:01:26 AM PDT (CA)
    Subject: Hello, I need your help …

    Hello,

    How are you doing today? hope all is well with you, I’m sorry that I didn’t inform you about my traveling to England for a Seminar. I need a favour from you as soon as you receive this e-mail because I misplaced my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money, and other valuable things were kept,. i’ll be happy if you can assist me in any way i’ll be needing the sum of $2,500 to sort out my hotel bills and get myself back home i’ll appreciate whatever you can afford to help me with, please send the money in any currency to my details below through western union money transfer all you have to do is go to the closest western union location with the money in cash and instruct the agent to wire it to my personal details below:

    Receiver’s Name: ** removed by site administrator **
    Address: ** removed by site administrator **
    London, ** removed by site administrator **
    United Kingdom

    Please as soon as you send the Money let me read back from you with the details of money sent such as:
    Money Transfer Control Number (MTCN) 10 Digits ….
    Text Question: Money
    Text Answer: Sent
    Amount Sent : ……

    Your reply will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    ** removed by site adminstrator**

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Hildegard. I have been away from the office for a couple of days so I am sorry about the late reply.

    Thank you for forwarding this scam on to us. I will forward it on to our Fraud Section for information purposes. This is a common one and I am glad that you recognized it for what it is. I hope this will serve as a “heads up” for our readers out there. As well, I encourage our readers to visit the “Don’t Be Scammed” page on our website to familiarize yourselves with some of the other active scams that we are aware of.

    Thanks for writing in, Hildegard, and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  124. 1865
    Mike, Saanich

    Hi, Is it illegal to avoid a red light? For example, I was driving East on McKenzie, coming towards Shelbourne to turn left. The lights to go straight were green and the advanced was red. I went straight through the lights, turned left into the Petro Canada on the corner and cut through. Is that a ticketable offence to avoid having to wait for the advance?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mike, thanks for writing in.

    As long as the turns and exits etc that you make are legal and safe, then there is nothing illegal about what you described. Remember, that it is legal to cross a double line only when it is safe to do so, when you are exiting or entering a roadway and you aren’t unreasonably affecting traffic flow. Turning into Petro Canada in the manner you describe could potentially be dangerous so close to an intersection. Just something to keep in mind.

    Thanks, Mike, and have a great evening.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire 

  125. 1864
    Janice, Saanich

    Hello,

    My son has his “L” and we are disputing whether or not once he get’s his “N” if he can listen while driving to loud music on the car radio. I thought there was a by-law forbidding loud music while driving. I know you cannot have head phones on but what about car radio/stereo?

    Thank you in advance for your information.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Janice, thanks for your question.

    Saanich Bylaw #7059 is the Noise Suppression Bylaw which regulates excessive noise in Saanich and Saanich Bylaw #8382 regulates “Streets and Traffic”. Both have elements that would cover excessively loud music coming from cars. See page “2 of 5″ on this link, which details when a headphone can be used (only one ear) and how music played by an audio player of any kind must be played through the vehicle’s speakers, not headphones. On the same page, have a read of the “Note to Graduated Licensing Program Drivers(GLP)”.

    Lastly, a driver could be charged under the Motor Vehicle Act if it is deemed that the driver was unattentive and/or driving dangerously as a result of listening to music that was too loud and distracting.

    Hope this helps, Janice, and have a great night!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  126. 1863
    Miranda, Cordova Bay

    Hi there;
    I was just wondering if it is legal to make a left hand turn over a double yellow line in order to enter a residence or business. I have gotten different answers from everyone I’ve asked…
    Thank you :)

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Miranda, thanks for your question.

    Yes, you can cross a double yellow line when you are leaving or entering a roadway as long as you can do so safely and without unreasonably affecting the travel of another vehicle. It would be up to officer discretion as to whether the flow of traffic has been unreasonably affected, ie you holding up a long line of traffic behind you while waiting to make the turn.

    Section 155 (1)(a) of the BC Motor Vehicle Act states that you must stay to the right of a solid double line but Section 156 allows for a suspension of Section 155 as long as the above mentioned requirements are met.

    Hope that settles the matter for you. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

     

  127. 1862
    Kim, Saanich

    Hi There,
    I am trying to find out how to contact the “dream team”. I have been told it includes a police officer and other mental health professionals. Can you please supply me with this info?
    Thanks.
    Kim

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Kim, thanks for writing in.

    Some of the goals of the Integrated Mobile Crisis Response Team are to:

          - reduce the reliance of uniformed officers responding to a mental health crisis,

          - improve the ability to refer persons in crisis to community-based services, thus reducing unnecessary ER visits,

          - provide information to uniform members responding to calls where mental health is an issue, and

          - to improve the quality of service to those suffering with mental health issues.

    To get in touch with IMCRT you would need to call the NEED Crisis Line at 250 386 6323. They will direct you from there.

    Thanks Kim and enjoy the sunshine!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  128. 1861
    A concerned bare land strata resident, Saanich

    Hello, we live in a so called “bare land strata” development in Saanich which consists of 50 lots with numerous curb side pull-out parking spots for visitors. From time to time we have visitors that would park their vehicles in a manner that I would consider improper if not illegal (e.g. park on the left instead of the right side of the road, park on the sidewalk, park within a few feet of a fire-hydrant etc.). I am concerned about pedestrian safety and liability on the Strata Corporation if accidents happen due to such behaviours.

    I understand that the roads within the development are consider “private” – at least what’s what the street signs say. My questions are:

    - Are private roads within a bare land strata subject to the same BC Motor Vehicle Acts, and/or Saanich’s own parking bylaws in terms of parking manner?
    - If yes – then what is the correct procedures to report such incidents?
    - If no – then does it mean that it is perfectly legal and acceptable for people to park in any manner on a private road?

    Thank you in advance for your clarification!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, thanks for your question.

    Saanich Bylaw #8382, “Streets and Traffic Regulation”, would not apply to a private road. However, the BC Motor Vehicle Act does apply and would cover such violations as “Park Near Hydrant” (within 5 metres), “Block Driveway”, “Park on Sidewalk”, “Obstruct Traffic by Parking” to name just a few. See the BC Motor Vehicle Act (starting at Section 187) for more.

    To report such an incident you would simply call 250 475 4321 (our non-emergency line) to lodge your complaint. It may be helpful at the time to advise the call taker that the road is private so that a police officer is assigned as opposed to a Bylaw Enforcement officer.

    Hope this helps and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  129. 1860
    Senior living in Broadmead

    As a resident I am dreading the weekend late-night drunken strolls home along the dark and tree-lined Royal Oak Drive in Broadmead, and elsewhere nearby, owing to the damage that is done to property in the area. We would not object to simple mischief, but I have noticed it is escalating now that June is here to damage to irrigation stand-pipes, private street-number posts, strata signs, etc… Naturally not much can be done unless we call in sounds that are suspicious promptly, but sometimes we get the message from the dispatcher that police are pretty busy, as I suspect they are on summer evenings… Then, some of our residents are wealthy and just call their maintenance person to come by and fix whatever happened — but not everyone is by any means. The older seniors around here aren’t too interested in Block Watch, it’s too bad. This kind of damage and noise casts a pall over the quality of life for all, and I’d like to see a few more patrols from 11 pm onward to even 3 and 4 am… especially on week-end nights, and maybe on bike patrol where they can see and feel what is going on…

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning and thank you for writing in.

    I am sorry to hear that this kind of ongoing problem is escalating with the coming of summer. I will forward your concerns on to the patrol platoons, the bike squads and to Crime Prevention in our Community Liaison Section. I can understand anyone’s frustration when they call in only to hear a “we are busy” message. This only happens with the non-emergency calls. I ask for your patience and to stay on the line to make the report. Even when we are busy we still want to hear your complaint and to act on it. Without your report we won’t know that anything happened. It is these kind of reports and statistics that aid us in deciding where to best direct our resources.

    Thanks for keeping us informed and I hope we can be of some help in keeping your neighbourhood quiet and peaceful.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  130. 1859
    Ian, Nanaimo

    Assuming I had all the proper education and all the requirements to at least apply, including a clean criminal record, would the criminal history of my family come into play in any stage from law enforcement education to a permanent job?

    Also, as an aside, I really appreciate this easily accessible site for questions that aren’t specifically covered in legislation, as well as your department’s willingness to be more open to the public, in a time when opaque government is the norm. Thanks.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ian, thanks for visiting our website.

    Our Staff Development Section conducts background checks on the immediate family of an applicant. This check usually covers the spouse and ex-spouses, children, parents, inlaw parents, siblings and inlaw siblings. Each application is reviewed individually on a case by case basis and simply because a family member has a record of some kind does not necessarily mean that the applicant will be denied. We would consider the nature of the record and the relationship between the person in question and the applicant. Ian, if you have any concerns and you wish to discuss this in more detail with our Staff Development Section you are welome to contact them at careers@saanichpolice.ca.  

    Good luck with your endeavors and thank you for your kind words regarding this site. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  131. 1858
    Mike, Saanich

    Hi,

    If I have my license prohibited, can I start my car to charge the battery or whatever, as long as I’m in my driveway and not on any public road?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mike, thanks for writing in.

    Yes, you can start the engine for the purposes of maintenance. You simply can’t drive the car. Thank you for being so conscientious about your situation.

    Hope you are well.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  132. 1857
    Nancy

    Hi: Can you please direct me to the community survey. There is information
    in the Times Colonist to say the survey is available on your website until June 4th and I am unable to locate it.
    Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Nancy,

    Follow this link to our homepage and once there you will see in the middle of the page the link “Strategic Plan Community Surveys” (just below “Welcome to the Saanich Police Website”). Click on that and you should be on your way.

    Thanks very much, Nancy, for participating in the survey. Input from the community is essential to the success of the formulation of our strategic plan.

    Hope you have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  133. 1856
    Adrian, Saanich

    I just wanted to thank Cst. Matt Jones for following up with my traffic complaint (10-12154) and for apprising me of the outcome. His professionalism and courtesy call goes a long way in strengthening the positive public image I, and others, have in the Saanich Police Department. Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Adrian,

    Thank you for taking the time to pass on your appreciation. I will be sure to direct Matt to your comment and I am certain that he will be grateful for your kind words. 

    Hope this finds you well!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  134. 1855
    John, Saanich

    I know of someone who is driving despite having his licence suspended for impaired driving. I would like to know what may happen if they were to get into a traffic accident. Granted he’d be totally screwed… But I’m wondering what would happen to the other person who was involved.

    Obviously it’s wrong to do what he’s doing, but I don’t want to rat him out if the other person would be covered just as they would be if he were licensed to drive.

    I look forward to a response.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John, thanks for writing in.

    Generally speaking, if the victim in the crash is insured and not in breach of his or her insurance, like your friend would be, then the victim is going to be covered. But as I said, this is only a generalization and there can be other factors that could come into play that could complicate the situation for all parties.

    Having said that, I don’t think who is and who is not covered is the primary concern. Both the police and the Office of the Superintendent of Motor Vehicles have made a decision that, for the sake of the safety of the public, your friend is not to drive a motor vehicle. This decision is not an arbitrary one. If I may be blunt, the fact that he is still driving shows his lack of judgement, accountability and concern for others. Neither you nor I know how many 24 hr prohibitions and impaired investigations your friend has been the subject of. I recognize that there are times when an impaired charge or a 24 hr is truly an isolated incident, but I believe more often than not that where there is smoke there is fire.

    Sorry to get on my soapbox, John, and I know, aside from the point on insurance, that I didn’t tell you anything that you didn’t already know. We all know the possible consequences of your friend’s actions and I’m not talking about insurance.

    Have a great day, John, and thanks for your question and concerns.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  135. 1854
    spokane remodeling

    Hey, for reasons uknown when I put your feed into my feed reader, it does not function. Can you give me the RSS link just to ensure I’m using the current one?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Spokane, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. I attempted to email you but the status shows “undeliverable”.

    I checked with the company who shares with us the management of the web page and they advised that it appears the RSS link on the Comments and Questions page is functioning properly. They asked me to ask you which link/page are you referring to?

    Thanks for your patience on this. As I have stated before, when it comes to technology, I haven’t progressed very far along the evolutionary chain. I think I still have a flipper in the primordial sludge.

    Hope you are well!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  136. 1853
    Kevin, Saanich

    I see that the form removes spaces and my diagram is not so pretty.

    Regarding left turns at Mackenzie & Larchwood:
    When traveling east on Mackenzie there is a pedestrian controlled crosswalk at Larchwood that intersects Mackenzie. The crosswalk is on the west side of the Mackenzie-Larchwood intersection. Is it legal to make a left turn from Mackenzie eastbound to Larchwood northbound when the light is red?

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Kevin, thanks for writing in and thanks for re-sending your question. Yes, something was definitely “lost in translation” in regards to your diagram.

    The quick answer is “no”, you would not be able to make a left turn against a red light from McKenzie to Larchwood. The only time you can make a left turn against a red light is when you are turning onto a one-way street at an intersection of no more than “two highways” and there are no signs posted prohibiting the turn. Larchwood is two-way so this would not be allowed. See section 129 of the BC Motor Vehicle Act for the exact wording.

    Hope this answers your question, Kevin, and I hope you have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  137. 1852
    A, Saanich

    I had a question in regards to distracted driving. I support legislation of hand-held distraced driving laws. However, there are far more distracted things that I see people doing, rather than on a cell phone. Eating, make-up, drinking coffee and believe it or not reading. What happens if it is determined that someone is doing one of the above activities and is involved in a MVA? Why didn’t they just ban all that while driving? even though I feel that would be over legislation.

    Thank You!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi A, thanks for writing in.

    You are right, cell phones aren’t the only in-car distractions out there. All of the examples you provided can be equally if not more distracting than a cell phone. And although these distractions aren’t necessarily included in the wording of the BC Motor Vehicle Act they are prohibited (depending on the circumstance) under section 144, “Careless Driving Prohibited“. This section states, “… a person must not drive a motor vehicle on a highway (a) without due care and attention, (b) without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway…”. This would be the section enforced if a driver is found to have been driving in such a manner, MVA or not. The fine ranges from $196 to $368.

    Reports of such driving habits (ie, a driver reading or putting on make-up while driving) are welcome at traffic@saanichpolice.ca. Even if only a warning letter is sent out as a result it may spur a bit of a “re-think” on the driver’s part that may, in turn, prevent a collision in the future.

    Keep driving safely, A, and I hope your Monday is tolerable!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  138. 1851
    Eva, Central Saanich

    I’m very sorry to hear about the passing of Titan. I don’t what I would do if I lost my big guy at such a young age. Please pass my condolences on.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Eva, thank you for your kind sympathies.

    I will be sure to pass your support on to Cst. Zielinski. The support and genuine compassion that I have witnessed concerning the passing of Titan is truly a beautiful thing and is greatly appreciated by all of us here at Saanich.  

    Eva, I wish you and your “big guy” many happy years of fun and companionship together!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  139. 1850
    Maggie, Victoria

    I would appreciate knowing the following: What is the allowable distance between the posted signage and a speed trap? Many thanks!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Maggie, happy Monday.

    There is no such thing as a set or pre-defined ”allowable distance between the posted signage and a speed trap”. Police can set up speed traps wherever they feel that such enforcement would be effective. Generally we are targeting high collision/infraction areas.

    Thanks for your question. Hope you have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  140. 1849
    David, Saanich

    I’m curious whether cycling while intoxicated is prohibited by any laws in BC. If so, can you please cite the law and/or laws under which it would be prohibited? I do not ride my bike while intoxicated (because I consider it a really dumb idea), but I’m curious about this, as the law seems to be unclear.

    Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi David, thanks for your question.

    No, there is no law in the Canadian Criminal Code or BC Motor Vehicle Act that specifically forbids cycling while under the influence of alcohol or drugs. However, if one were involved in an accident or incident while on a bike and that incident was caused by the rider being under the influence then the police could possibly charge that individual with “careless cycling”, section 183(14) BC Motor Vehicle Act.

    Why there isn’t a more specific law with a more substantial punishment, I don’t know. You are right, cycling while drunk or high can be very dangerous. One wrong swerve could bring a rider directly into the path of a passing or oncoming vehicle. And sometimes people forget that such accidents don’t impact the rider exclusively, but can leave lasting scars, both physical and mental, with all persons involved.

    Continue to ride safely, David, and thanks for your question.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  141. 1848
    King Car Games

    I was just wondering how long you’ve had this blog for?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning KCG, thanks for writing in.

    I checked the archives and the oldest Comment and Question I could find is dated June 16, 2006. I am fairly certain that is when this page began as I don’t believe we have deleted any posts from the archives.

    Hope you are well and thanks for your interest.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  142. 1847
    George, Saanich

    I am also being hounded by AAS, 250-380-0029. I answered their at home survey, was told I might win something, and have been called several times a day since. When I see who is calling I don’t answer the phone.

    I have read many other similar complaints about this company and I am disappointed that nothing is being done to stop them.

    Some of us have been able to not get sucked in any further but many (particularly the elderly) will be. The BBS is not effective in stopping this type of business behaviour. This company is dangerous.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi George, I am sorry to hear that these kind of frustrations continue.

    Anyone out there who suspects that they have been the victim of a fraud or criminal harassment are welcome to contact us. We will review the circumstances and determine if this is in fact a criminal matter as opposed to a civil matter. We do not have the authority to step in on civil matters, only criminal matters. Poor business practice is not a crime. Fraud or criminal harassment is. Again, if anyone is uncertain where the line is drawn I encourage you to give us a call at 250 475 4321 or attend our front desk at 760 Vernon Av.

    Thank you for sharing your concerns.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  143. 1846
    Jo, Saanich

    Hi again. Cst. Dukeshire was kind enough to respond to my previous question (1797) and now I have another (sorry). With regard to the same issue of dirtbiking on one’s own property do neighbours have the right to petition to stop someone from riding on their property? It seems to me that if a person is riding within prescribed times and not destroying property in the process that they are within their right. Thanks in advance.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hello again, Jo. I am sorry to hear that the troubles continue.

    As I had said in our last correspondence, it is legal to ride a dirtbike on your own property however if your neighbours feel that by doing so the peace and quiet of the neighbourhood is being disturbed then they do have the right to make a complaint. They can petition to the Mayor and Council asking that a bylaw be put in place forbidding dirtbiking on private property and/or they can petition as a unified complainant to the Bylaw Office in regards to the noise. Under the Saanich Noise Bylaw the only “prescribed times” that exist are in relation to certain machinery, deliveries or construction etc. Outside of the exceptions laid out under the bylaw, there are no prescribed times that apply to general noise complaints.

    I would encourage you, if you haven’t already, to call the Saanich Bylaw Office at 250 475 5456. You can discuss with them what yours and your neighbour’s rights are and how to best handle the matter.

    Thanks for writing in, Jo. Hope you are well.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  144. 1845
    joyce, Pemberton

    Is it illegal to warn oncoming drivers of a radar trap ahead by posting a sign on a telephone post? I know when I lived in the city the radio would often announce it if someone called in, but that was a long time ago. I was curious as to whether it would fall under interference with an investigation.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Joyce, thanks for visiting our website.

    By the letter of the law, yes, such an act could be considered obstruction. Section 129 of the Criminal Code states, ” Everyone who… a) resists or wilfully obstructs a public officer or peace officer in the execution of his duty…is guilty…” (of obstructing a peace officer). An argument might be that a posted sign does not obstruct that officer from conducting his duty of traffic enforcement, however, the aim of such traffic enforcement is to catch speeders and through education and consequences, ie violation tickets, to correct individual driving habits. By alerting offenders to the police presence by a sign or radio broadcast or flashing headlights one is interfering with this form of traffic enforcement. However, it is unlikely that the police, Crown Counsel and the Courts would consider it to be in public interest to pursue such a charge.

    Ultimately we want drivers slowing down and abiding by the rules of the road and we realize that fellow drivers giving a “heads up” does accomplish this. Unfortunately, these warnings only slow drivers down for a brief period. There is no real correction/education taking place. We want drivers driving safely all the time, not just when that driver is aware that an officer is around the corner. Is a chronic speeder more likely to slow down on a consistent basis after repeatedly meeting the legal consequences of speeding (ie fines, insurance rate hikes, loss of licence etc) or when the speeder faces zero consequences and simply slows down for short periods because he or she was alerted in time?

    I realize that some may argue that the above is not our primary motivation in conducting traffic enforcement and that instead we conduct such enforcement as a ”money grab”. I would ask those individuals to compare the dollars spent in North America on a yearly basis on property damage, loss of revenue and labour, medical costs, emergency services, legal proceedings both criminal and civil, etc that result from speeding to the dollars generated through traffic enforcement. I would imagine that the scales do not tip in favour of enforcement.

    I can appreciate the intention of trying to save a fellow driver some money and grief by giving a “heads up” but I just ask that we keep the amount of “money and grief” associated to the aftermath of speeding in mind when we do so. I wonder if a driver who has suffered the loss of a loved one to speeding would have a desire to warn of a speedtrap.

    Thanks for your question, Joyce, and I hope all is well in beautiful Pemberton.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  145. 1844
    Liberty, Gorge/Tillicum

    I had a scary encounter at Tillicum Mall yesterday, Sunday May 23rd around 12 noon. I was with my friend, my 7 year old son and my 2 and half year old daughter. We had just finished having a snack at Starbucks and decided to visit the book sale tables in the mall. Both my friend and I noticed a suspicious looking man following my daughter around. Although she was always within 3 feet of me, this man seemed to be trying to get close to my daughter. My friend and I moved right up close to my daughter, making no room for the man so that he had to move away. A few minutes later we all went down to Dollar Giant and stood talking about what had just happened. My daughter was holding my friend’s hand and my son was standing with us. The same man came along and came up right behind my daughter, within a couple of inches. He motioned as if he was looking in the ice cream freezer, but his eyes were on my daughter. He was withing 2 feet of myself and my friend and when finally noticed our icy stares he backed off. There was a native woman that he talked to periodically throughout the whole incident. I post this statement because I want to warn people there are some real sickos out there. Especially now that the weather has improved.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Liberty, thanks for writing in.

    I posted your comment for the same reasons you wanted the comment posted. But in addition to this, I strongly encourage you to report the matter to us either by attending our front desk at 760 Vernon Av or phoning in your report at 250 475 4321. An officer would be assigned to speak with you about the incident in more detail and to further investigate the complaint.   

    Thanks for sharing your experience, Liberty, and again, please take the time to make the report. It is important that we know as much as we can about this individual and that this information is properly disseminated. I hope you and your family enjoy a peaceful evening.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  146. 1843
    Sam

    I’m sorry for your loss of Titan.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sam, hope you are well.

    Thank you for your condolences. Titan is surely missed. I will forward your kind comment on to Cst. Zielinski.

    Take care.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  147. 1842
    Donna, Saanich

    We recently moved into a residence near a school. There is a small separation between our properties, which I suspect is owned by Saanich. Part of our front lawn is separated by a fence about waist height to the Saanich owned side. Both my husband and I have seen/encountered groups of teens who trespass through our front lawn, over or around our fence to the Saanich/school side or vice versa. We have contacted the principal of the school, who has taken measures to educate the students. We are very appreciative for the assistance.

    About 20 mins ago, I happened to be outside and saw a group of 3 girls looking to cut across our lawn. I asked them to please not cut through my lawn, to which they proceeded up the street to use the proper public walkway. They didn’t say a word, or make eye contact.

    It is really frustrating as a home owner. Our property is quite private from our side neighbours, so they don’t see the trespassing. We can’t be home all the time to monitor the situation. We can only catch who we catch. Please advise on what we can do. The traffic on our front lawn may be more than we realize.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Donna, I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing these difficulties.

    I suggest you keep a channel of communication open with the school. As well, perhaps a call to both the Saanich School District and the Municipal Hall to discuss how to better divert the students ie, new fencing, might be of some help. If students that continue to disrespect your property are identified by either yourself or the school, then I would encourage you to contact us at 250 475 4321. We will be happy to have a sit-down with the student in question and his or her parents to discuss the matter. Lastly, schools in Saanich have Saanich Police officers assigned to them as School Liaison Officers. You are welcome to call our Community Liaison Section at 250 475 4311 to get in touch with the officer responsible for the school in question.

    I hope this is of some help although I am not sure if I have given you any suggestions that you haven’t already considered. Thanks for writing in and hope the problem is resolved soon.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  148. 1841
    Tom, Saanich

    Do the individuals posted on your MOST WANTED website page have corresponding files with the Saanich Police (or other local area police) or are they individuals wanted by police somewhere else in Canada ?

    How often is your MOST WANTED website page normally updated ?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tom, hope you are well.

    The individuals placed on the Saanich Police website “Most Wanted” page are placed there based on Saanich warrants. Some of these people may have outstanding warrants with other departments as well, in fact this is often the case, but the decision to post an individual on our site is based on our warrants alone.

    The site is updated whenever one of the warrants is executed, which can range from every couple of days to every week or two. Considering the long weekend has just passed I will most likely have a look today to see if there are any changes and update accordingly.

    Thanks for writing in and have a great night!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  149. 1840
    Martin Holloway, Louisiana, US

    I would like to commend the action taken by Cst. Greg Henault relative to his entry into the home of a medically distressed person. Cst. Henault used lock picking techniques to save the life of the homeowner. I teach law enforcement and military units lock picking and lock bypassing for exactly the same sort of applications. I have taught law enforcement agencies in Canada before and I commend him for his professionalism and his actions. If your agency would be interested in training more members in the same techniques, I would be honored to assist.

    Martin Holloway
    www.hollotec.com

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Martin, thanks for visiting our website.

    I will be sure to pass your commendation on to Greg. I am sure he will appreciate your kind words. And I will take the liberty, if I may, of passing your comment and contact information on to our Staff Development Section as well.

    Thanks again, Martin, and I hope all is well down your way.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  150. 1839
    Ernesto,Saanich

    hello, i just want to report my cousin she is dating a minor,that is illegal in this country isn’t it??, she is 21 or 22, & the minor is 17.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ernesto, thanks for writing in.

    The age of consent in Canada is 16, so the 17 year old dating a 21 or 22 year old is legal. There are exceptions to this. If your cousin is 5 or more years older than the 17 yr old and is in a position of trust or authority over the 17 yr old and/or the relationship is exploitative in any way then this could constitute an offence under Section 150.1, sub-section 2.2 (b) of the Canadian Criminal Code.

    I appreciate your concern, Ernesto, but it doesn’t appear that an offence is taking place. You are welcome to attend your local police station to discuss this matter further if you wish. You would be able to discuss the matter in more detail with an officer who would be able to make an informed decision on whether this is something that should involve the police or not.

    Hope this finds you well.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  151. 1838
    LP, Gordon Head

    Last year, my cat turned up with horrific injuries. The vet recommended we call police, as it looked like torture. The Saanich officer who came to my house to collect info to file a report was wonderful - his compassion for what had happened to my pet was genuine, and he took it just as seriously as if the victim had been a person.

    My condolences on the passing of Titan and many thanks for your caring help.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi LP, thank you for your comments.

    I am so saddened and angered to hear that about your cat. I hope he/she has recovered well and is happy and healthy. I am glad that you and your pet received the compassion and attention that you both deserve. Such crimes are truly heinous.

    And thank you for your condolences regarding Titan. That is very kind of you. I will pass on your remarks to Cst. Zielinski.

    I hope you and your loved ones (which, of course, includes your cat) are well!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  152. 1837
    Robert--Richmond

    re earlier comments on aftermarker mufflers–is there a max decibel level in the Motor vehicle Act
    I have a collector Camaro v8 with Flowmaster exhaust–louder than stock but not over loud
    Do these mufflers violate any BC statute?

    Thankyou
    Robert

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Robert, thanks for visiting our website.

    I have provided you with a link to the BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulations which regulates exhaust mufflers and the permitted noise levels. See Section 7.03 and scroll down to Section 27 and Table 3. Table 3 gives the maximum decibel levels. You may need to bring your vehicle to an inspection station to ensure that you fall within the regs. You can call 250 952 0577 (ICBC Inspections/Vehicle Compliance) for further information.

    Hope this helps, thank you for your consideration and enjoy your ride!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  153. 1836
    Denise,Saanich

    I was very saddened to hear of the passing of Titan.My Dad was a dog master in the RCMP and I know how strong of a bond the family gets with the dogs. I just about lost my 9 year old GSD to gastric dilation-volvulus and 180 degree twist of the root of the small intestine. May 9/10. We literaly watched it start to happen. Thank god we live only minutes from the Central Vic.Vet. Hospital. They are calling him(Rio) the miracle dog. The vet.(Dr.Lana Bissett) has never heard of a dog having both at the same time. They had him in surgery within minutes of us getting him there. They had his stomach and intestines out to reposition them. He now has 19 staples from stem to stern. They come out on tuesday. Your members have probably seen us walking along Saanich Rd. as we live along there. Please forward this message to Const. Zielinski and he may contact me if he has any questions. Our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family at this very sad time.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Denise and thank you so much for your kind words and sympathy.

    I am very happy to hear that Rio is doing well and I wish him a speedy recovery. I am an animal lover as well and can clearly remember the heartbreak that comes with losing a pet, and I can only imagine how that pain is compounded when that pet is also your partner, as in Jon and Titan’s case.

    Titan is surely missed. I will be sure to pass your comments on to Jon. Give Rio a scratch behind the ear for me.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  154. 1835
    WL,Saanich

    Hi
    I am a new immigrant. I bought a house. The house leaking. My friend came to help me one hour, he asked me work for him for 2 days. I did it.
    He estamited leaking problem for me. then he asked for two cars parking for two months (April and May) in my frond yard to reward. I say ok.

    My new renters need parking space. I asked him to move a little bit so that to allow another car to park. He didn’t move his car. I am afraid he might not move his cars( no driving number plate, tires are flat, long time no drive , he is driving another 3 cars , not these two broken cars)
    I am going to email him to ask him to move his car awsy before May 29. I will call tow company to tow his cars away on May 30 ,Sunday. (I work om weekdays)
    Am I allowed to tow his cars away? His cars are really bother me.
    thank you
    WL

    Saanich Police Reponse:

    Hi WL, thanks for writing in.

    This matter is more civil than criminal so I, as a police officer, shouldn’t direct you. I don’t see a problem in you having these vehicles towed from your property once the pre-agreed time frame is up, however, I suggest you contact The Law Centre for further advice on this. They provide free advice on legal problems, including civil matters, and it would be wise to protect yourself with qualified legal direction before you do anything.

    Hope this helps and that you are settling into Victoria well. Take care.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  155. 1834
    Lynn, Saanich

    What is recomended in a case where your neighbour is smoking pot next door and the smell is drifting into our house and yard. My 6 year old asked what that smell was during a 2:00 playdate with a friend and his mother. It was frustrating and embarassing.
    This happened all the time last summer (they just move in then) and we don’t enjoy our time outside when this occurs.
    We don’t condone this behaviour at all as it is illegal.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Lynn, I am sorry to hear that you are stuck with inconsiderate neighbours.

    Do you feel comfortable enough in discussing this problem with your neighbours or have you tried that already to no avail? Are your neighbours renters and if so, have you discussed the problem with the home owner? I suggest you keep a written history of when this problem occurs and to call us the next time it is happening. An officer will attend, speak with you about the problem, and if you wish, speak with your neighbours as well. Our authority to arrest, enter their home and/or seize any drugs will be quite limited but at least we can speak with them and try to resolve the issue. And our attendance will be documented in a police report which will assist any potential future case against your neighbours should they continue their behaviour to the point where Mischief charges may be entertained (Section 430(1) Criminal Code).

    Don’t hesitate to call us. It’s not fair that you and your family are forced to live with their habits. Thanks for writing in.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  156. 1833
    Liam, North Saanich

    Hi, I’ve recently started cycling, and I wanted to know if it’s a legal requirement to have lights on my bike? At the moment I don’t have lights on it, but I’m not going to be riding at night.
    Thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Liam, thanks for your question.

    Paragraph 6 of Section 183 of the Motor Vehicle Act states:

    (6) A cycle operated on a highway between 1/2 hour after sunset and 1/2 hour before sunrise must have the following equipment:
    (a) a lighted lamp mounted on the front and under normal atmospheric conditions capable of displaying a white light visible at least 150 m in the direction the cycle is pointed;
    (b) a red reflector of a make or design approved by the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia for the purposes of this section;
    (c) a lighted lamp, mounted and visible to the rear, displaying a red light.

    I encourage you to visit bikesense.bc.ca. It is an excellent site dealing with “all things bicycle”. Happy riding!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  157. 1832
    Sam

    Noisy cars:

    I know that a while back there was a big campaign targeting excessively loud cars. I don’t know how it worked out, but I haven’t noticed any reduction in the number of obnoxiously loud vehicles driving past my place late in the evening.

    I am somewhat interested in the car culture and do support people’s right to install aftermarket mufflers that may subtly alter the pitch or volume of the exhaust noise.

    Unfortunately there are still some people who feel that their mid 90’s economy car kitted out with disco lights on the inside and sparkly bits all over the body just isn’t quite obnoxious enough and decide to complete the package by sticking a potato-gun muffler at the end of the exhaust pipe.

    This would be fine if it actually muffled the sound or somehow produced a tasteful, quiet note but the result is usually an awfully loud racket that can be heard echoing off tall buildings two blocks away as the driver makes each gear shift at redline.

    So I ask the police to not bother with the aftermarket mufflers that produce a marginally louder exhaust note or may be a little bit bigger than the factory part, but rather focus on the drivers who are clearly being excessively noisy.

    Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sam, hope you are well. You are preaching to the converted on this one and thank you for the chuckle that your description of such vehicles gave me.

    I have forwarded your comment on to the head of our Traffic Safety Section so that he is aware of your concern. In addition, you are welcome to report any offending vehicles to us by emailing us at traffic@saanichpolice.ca. A statement from you detailing “what, where, when” etc., including plate number, would enable us to follow-up with that driver.

    Thanks for writing in and I wish you a peaceful evening.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  158. 1831
    T. ,Saanich

    Hi there,

    I own a number of blank firing semi-auto and fully automatic hand guns.
    As they do not fire any projectile at all, do they still fall under the same bylaw that pellet guns, and i imagine paintball guns fall under?

    I have read the bylaw and from what I understand, they are not technically illegal to shoot off in my yard.

    Correct me if I am wrong.

    And providing I am correct, what expectations would you (the police) have of me and my brothers when we choose to play robbers and robbers (neither of us like to pretend to be cops so we don’t play cops and robbers) around our yard?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi T, thanks for writing in.

    It does not sound like, based on your description of your “handguns”, that these are simply toy cap guns. It sounds like they would qualify as a firearm under the municipal definition, ie air guns, air rifles, air pistols and spring guns. Section 2 (g) of the bylaw appears to be the only exception allowed for the firing of blank cartridges and unfortunately does not include “robbers and robbers”.

    From time to time we receive reports of youths possessing what appear to the general public as very real-looking firearms. We take such calls very seriously and we will respond as though the gun is real until we are able to determine otherwise. This means increased and ultimately unnecessary risk to the responding officers as well as the youths involved. If the guns you have are in fact simply toys and are allowed under the bylaw, it may be a good idea to speak to your neighbours about them so that they aren’t alarmed, when looking out their window, at seeing a youth run by with what appears to be a gun. Just consider how others could potentially perceive what you and your brothers are doing and contemplate the possible consequences of that perception.

    Thanks for your question, T, and I hope you and your brothers continue to enjoy yourselves. Even if nobody wants to be “the cop”. :)

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  159. 1830
    Renata, Vancouver

    Hi there. Sometimes I see cyclists riding the road in small groups, side by side. Is this actually allowed? Does it make a difference if they’re biking close to the same speed as traffic?

    Also, do your cycling officers have any tips for cyclists who want to pass to the left lane in order to make a left turn? Sometimes I make a left-hand signal but drivers are reluctant to let me move in front of them into the left lane (before an intersection). It’s pretty nerve-racking to do this; drivers seem to get much more frustrated with waiting behind a bike compared to a car that is signaling left. Thanks!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Renata, thanks for visiting our website.

    It is actually illegal for cyclists to “ride abreast of another person operating a cycle on the roadway” - BC Motor Vehicle Act Section 183. The Act does not make exceptions for cyclists that are riding at the same speed of vehicle traffic.

    And I understand how nerve-racking it can be at times when negotiating the streets on a bike. Any time you wish to change lanes you must signal before doing so. If you wish to cross a lane in order to enter a left-turn lane and a safe opportunity to do so does not present itself, you always have the option of remaining in your lane, cycling up to the intersection, dismounting and crossing by using the crosswalk.

    Renata, I suggest you visit bikesense.bc.ca. This site is a valuable resource for cyclists and it includes a copy of the section of the Motor Vehicle Act which outlines the responsibilities of cyclists as well as provides instructions on how to most safely operate a bicycle. There is a detailed section devoted to left turns that may be of some help to you. 

    Thanks for writing in and I hope this helps in keeping you safe while you ride.

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  160. 1829
    John, Saanich

    Hi;

    Could you please give an update on the “Lakehill Peeper”? I recall someone was arrested a while ago (year or two, the guy who was fliming people), was he incarcerated? And what is the status of the more recent series of peeper sightings, has anyone been caught?

    Thanks,

    John

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John, thanks for writing in.

    Unfortunately, no arrests have been made in relation to the recent reports of a “Lakehill Peeper”. See our media releases on March 30, April 6 and April 13 concerning this investigation. Patrol members continue to direct their attention to this concern on a daily basis.

    The individual you refer to who was arrested last year for similar offences was found guilty of Voyeurism and Assault Peace Officer with Intent to Resist Arrest. He is not incarcerated but is bound by strict conditions of a conditional sentence order.

    Thanks again, John, and have a great day.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  161. 1828
    Walter, North Saanich

    I have just moved from out of province, I own an SUV with a Number plate that attaches to the rear Hatch. I often use One of those Cargo Carriers that when installed in the hitch receiver provides a platform to place cargo on. I have a rather large Rubbermaid bin that is secured to this platform. The top of the bin sit about 1 inch Higher then the bottom of the number plate.

    When standing behind my SUV I can clearly make out the numbers and the Yearly stickers on the plate from almost every angle except dead on from or below 3 foot hight from the rear. I was wondering after not finding the answer in the Motor Vehicle act regulations. Is this considered obstructed. any officer following behind would be able to make out the numbers for sure, but the Yearly sticker might be obstructed from a low angle.

    What If I had a bike rack that obstructed the plate?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Walter, welcome to Victoria. Hope you are settling in well.

    It sounds like you will be ok but it’s difficult to give you a definitive answer without actually seeing the rear of your vehicle. As you have already researched, the BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulations state:

    ” 3.03 A number plate must be kept entirely unobstructed and free from dirt or foreign material, so that the numbers and letters on it may be plainly seen and read at all times and so that the numbers and letters may be accurately photographed using a speed monitoring device or traffic light safety device prescribed under section 83.1 of the Act. “

    As long as you are complying with the above and an officer would be able to clearly read your plate while driving behind your vehicle, you should have no problems. If you installed a bike rack that obstructs the plate then you would be in violation of the regulations. You are welcome to pop in with your SUV to any police station and ask for an officer to take a look to make sure everything is ok.

    Thanks for visiting our website and I hope you enjoy your first summer in Victoria!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  162. 1827
    Jasmine, Saanich

    Hello,

    I have a question regarding street parking in residential areas. Recently we have had a car parked in front of our house every night. The street does not have a curb and simple changes from road to lawn and more times then none the car is partly on our property. I know that the street is public parking but was wondering is there a point in which we can do anything about it?

    Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Jasmine. Thanks for writing in.

    Anytime a car is parked on your property give us a call at 250 475 4321. We will contact the registered owner and have the car moved. Don’t hesitate to call, even if you are forced to do so on repeated occasions.

    Have a great day and enjoy the sunshine!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  163. 1826
    Jean, Victoria

    We live in a condominium complex in Victoria. All units are owner-occupied. There is one unit which is troublesome, the resident owner is a middle-aged woman who leads a questionable lifestyle, has had a number of boyfriends move in with her, and there have been a number of incidents, several involving violence. Recently there was more violence in their suite and police were called. Police have visited on about 3 other occasions in the past month, where the woman was taken away in police car. How much information are the owners in the building entitled to? Who do we contact to obtain information?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jean, thanks for your question.

    If you live in Victoria, I suggest you call Victoria Police at 250 995 7654 and ask for their Freedom of Information section. They will be able to tell you what information can be accessed and who can access that information. Be prepared, however, that this individual’s right to privacy will be respected and that it may be very limited as to what information you or your neighbours will be given. I just spoke with our Freedom of Information coordinator who advised that the complainant (the one who calls the police) would be allowed to request a copy of that police report which would document police attendance, time, date etc but that the nature of the call and a record of the interactions between the police and the subject of the complaint would be kept private.

    In addition to speaking with the Victoria Police Freedom of Informatiom Section, I would suggest you and your neighbours document any concerns and associated police attendance so that a history is available for your own purposes, for strata purposes and for any legal proceedings that may come as a result of this problem.

    Lastly, have a read of post #1687. The complaint is of a different nature, but the problem was taking place in a condo complex and I provide some information and links to some resources that may be of assistance to strata councils and condo owners.

    Hope this helps. Have a great day.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  164. 1825
    Nancy, Saanich

    I have a neighbour, an elderly woman, who has become rather nasty since the death of her husband last year. We have a few large pine trees on the edge of our property, next to hers. There is a catwalk separating our properties. She also has a couple of trees on the other side o the catwalk. As well, there are many trees on surrounding properties.
    After any kind of wind storm where branches from trees all over the neighbourhood get blown around, this woman has been gathering everything that fell on her lawn and throwing them onto our property. Half the branches don’t even come from our trees. She’s complaining about our trees all the time saying they block her sunlight (which they only do late in the day when the sun is going down behind the trees). She is always threatening to call Saanich and have them come and cut down our trees as she says they are a hazard and will fall on her house during a storm.
    I’m getting rather fed up with the threats and her constantly throwing all the branches all over our lawn. Trying to reason with her has gotten nowhere. She’s just extremely bitter and taking her frustrations out on us.
    Is there anything we can do to stop her from continuing this? I’m tired of having to clean up every time and us being left with carting all this stuff off to the compost facility because the piles get so big when we seem to be the receipient of the entire neighbourhoods branches tossed on our lawn.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Nancy, thanks for writing in.

    I am sorry to hear about your neighbour’s loss and I am sorry to hear about the difficulties you are experiencing with your neighbour. By letter of the law, your neighbour is committing the offence of Mischief by dumping branches on to your property. Section 430 (1)(c) of the Criminal Code states, “Every one commits mischief who wilfully…obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property”.

    You are welcome to call us at 250 475 4321 the next time this happens. We can attend, check to see how your neighbour is doing, speak to her about her actions and hopefully find a resolution that will satisfy all parties. In the meanwhile it is a good idea to document any run-ins you may have with your neighbour so that a written history including dates, times and nature of incident is available.

    Hope everything works out.

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  165. 1824
    Sean, Saanich

    Today on bay street bridge vicpd had a undercover at one end of bridge casually talking into his sleeve so police on other side of bridge could then pull over vehicles for what i believe was mostly cell phone and seat belt type infractions. The result was about 2 hours of backed up traffic adding about 5-7 mins to journey down bay each time. But a steady stream of tickets being issued. So my question is two part , do police officers supervisors give much thought of roadblock or enforcement campaigns effect on traffic flow?

    Secondaly, what the record for saanich for number of tickets issued in one day/one campaign?

    For the record im all for enforcement just is nice when they pull people off into a parking lot or side street and not issue tickets in turn lanes in afternoon commute. But as taxpayer efficiency of enforcement is nice, ie most tickets per hour. As sometimes you watch lonely saanich pd officers behind poles just waiting and waiting for that speeder. Your bright yellow jackets give you away i think. Think you could fare better with vicpd’s undercover tactic observed today specially in areas with good visibility and straigh aways like mckenzie and shelbourne.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sean, hope you are well.

    I can’t answer to how Victoria Police were handling that specific enforcement project but generally speaking police do consider the impact that any roadblock or traffic enforcement will have on the flow of traffic. Officers make an effort to have as little impact as possible on the law abiding drivers while at the same time maximizing the number of contacts with the offending drivers. The location of these projects are often based on where the number of offences/crashes are at their highest and naturally such locations are usually high volume areas so it’s not always possible to leave the flow of traffic completely unaffected. 

    In regards to any statistics surrounding the number of tickets issued you would need to speak with our Freedom of Information coordinator, Bob Bigelow, at 250 475 4307. I spoke with him today in regards to your question and he welcomes your phone call.

    Thanks for writing in and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  166. 1823
    Shery, Saanich

    The “Sussex Safer Roads” site from the UK has a wonderful video about the reasons one should wear a seat belt. It is the most moving and appropriate advertisement I have ever seen for wearing one, bar none. Worth a look.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Shery,

    Thanks very much for sharing that with us. I just watched the video and it is beautifully done. I agree, it is a strong reminder and worth a look. Here is the link for anyone out there interested.

    Hope you have a lovely day.

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  167. 1822
    L. Hunter Nanaimo

    I work as an advisor at VIU. If a recruit has a diploma in Police Foundations from an accredited college in Ontario, but does not have a completed high school graduation diploma, do they have to go back to school to earn their high school grad or would the successful achievement of a post secondary diploma be enough to meet the requirement?
    thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi there, thanks for writing in.

    One of our minimum requirements is that an applicant must have completed his or her high school or equivalent. This individual’s diploma in Police Foundations will most definitely be an asset to his or her application but high school graduation would still be required. I have provided you with a link to the Recruiting page on our website. In addition to useful information about our standards and application procedures, there is contact info for Sgt. Dean Duthie who works in our Staff Development Section. You, or any of your students, are welcome to contact Dean anytime with any questions or comments you may have.

    Thanks for visiting our website and I wish your students much success!

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  168. 1821
    gordon , saanich

    I’m wondering if some how you can tell me who installs the post-mounted spot-lites on all your ,(what seems to be about 200 vehicles ) parked out back of your establishment, I have a couple of spot-lites myself to install. thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Gordon, hope you are well.

    The vehicles with spotlamps come from the factory with the lights already mounted. Our Crown Victorias come as “police package” vehicles, with various police only modifications and accessories already installed. I have provided you with a link to the BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulations for your consideration. Division 4 pertains to lamps.

    Thanks for writing in and have a great day!

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  169. 1820
    Samantha, Gordon Head

    Hello,
    Question for you: neighborhood boy (13 years old?) has friends over and they shoot these kind of rifles - it sounds like a machine gun but obviously it’s not. Could it be an air gun? They are long and black and have a sort of black canister on the top. I’ve tried to snap a photo but the kids run away. It is not an option to talk to the parents (they can be volatile and we don’t want to move). Is there any kind of bylaw that kids can’t shoot in a residential area?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Samantha. Thanks for writing in.

    Saanich Bylaw #8092 regulates the discharge of any firearm in Saanich, and under this bylaw air guns, air rifles, air pistols and spring guns fall under the definition of “firearm”. It sounds like the kids are using a pellet gun of some kind which contravenes this bylaw. I encourage you to give us a call the next time you witness this happening and we will attend and speak with both the kids and their parents. You can reach us at 250 475 4321.

    Have a great day, even if it is a rainy Monday.

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  170. 1819
    stefan saanich

    are radar detectors and lazer jammers illegal?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Stefan, thanks for writing in.

    Radar detectors are not illegal in BC however a “laser jammer” or anything that interferes with the operation of a speed monitoring device is illegal. In fact, one could potentially be charged with “Obstruct Peace Officer” if that individual “wilfuly obstructs a public officer or peace officer in the execution of his duty…” (CCC Sec 129).

    Drive safe and have a great day!

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  171. 1818
    Mike, Saanich

    Hello,

    I assume if I run a stop sign in a parking lot I can’t get ticketed because it’s on private property right? I don’t mean if it’s a stop sign going from the parking lot onto the public road but one that is on the property like the 3 way stop at the Burnside side of Tillicum mall.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mike, thanks for your question.

    The rules of the road apply to parking lots as well. Under the BC Motor Vehicle Act the definition of “highway” includes:

    a) every highway within the meaning of the Transportation Act,

    b) every road, street, lane or right of way designed or intended for or used by the general public for the passage of vehicles, and

    c) every private place or passageway to which the public, for the purpose of the parking or servicing of vehicles, has access or is invited, but does not include an industrial road.

    So, to answer your question and with all due respect your assumption is wrong and you could, in fact, be given a ticket for running a stop sign in a parking lot.

    Have a great day and drive safe.

    Response by Cst.Kris Dukeshire

  172. 1817
    B & L Sunnymead

    Noise Bylaw 0312 - Prohibited Types of NOISE.

    Hi, we live in beautiful Saanich, Sunnymead to be precise. Some of our neighbors (this would be the inconsiderate ones) drive several cars with “AFTER MARKET EXHAUST SYSTEMS” which cause their vehicles to emit high decibal noises upshifting and downshifting. In an effort to increase their “cool factor”, these disrespectful neighbors MOST CERTAINLY are breaking the noise bylaw which cleary states:

    Section 12 (1) D The operation of any automobile, truck, motorcyle, bus or other motorized vehicle which by reason of disrepair, the use of a muffler that fails to cool and expell exhaust gases from the engine without excessive noise, mode of operation of the vehicle or any other cause, creates noise or sound which disturbs or tends to disturb the quiet, peace, rest, enjoyment, comfort or convenience of individuals or the public.

    Now that we have clerified that indeed a bylaw is being broken (about a thousand times a day), what is Saanich Police going do about enforcing it? Something is going to have to happen soon. Shall we start a petition and writing letter campaign with the support of our “decent” neighbors, or does the Mayor of Saanich take issue with these “citizens” as well? Please advice.

    B & L
    Sunnymead

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi B & L, thanks for writing in.

    You are welcome to report any such vehicles to us by either calling our non-emergency line at 250 475 4321 or through email at traffic@saanichpolice.ca. It’s best to report these incidents as they are happening and we would need a license plate number or a known address of the driver in order to have something to follow-up on.

    I am not sure whose bylaw that is that you are referring to. The Saanich noise bylaw is #7059 “Noise Suppression Bylaw”. You are welcome to contact the Bylaw Office at 250 475 5456 to discuss the matter. They may be able to assist as well.

    Hope this will be of some help and you are able to gain back some peace and quiet in your neighbourhood.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  173. 1816
    Adam, Saanich

    Hello,
    My Fiance and I are planning on having our wedding reception in our backyard. We are not selling any liquor and are planning on putting up a 20×30 tent.
    I am wondering if there is any special permits we will need for our event.

    Thank you for any information,

    Adam, Saanich

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Adam, thanks for writing in and congratulations!!

    I suggest you give the Liquor Control and Licensing Branch a call to see if they will require anything from you but as far as the police go, you will not need any paperwork or endorsement from us. Because the wedding will be held in a private place and liquor is not being sold we do not need to be involved in the Special Occasion License process. I called the LCLB but would have had to leave a message so it’s probably better that you contact them directly if you haven’t already.

    I wish you and your fiance a wonderful wedding and a happy and fruitful future together!

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  174. 1815
    Mackenzie, Saanich

    Hello, I got my iPod touch stolen from my school locker, what number would I call to report it? and how would it be possible to track it, if its possible? Thank you :)

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mackenzie, thanks for writing in.

    I am sorry to hear about the theft of your iPod Touch. If it was stolen from a location in Saanich then you can either attend our front desk at 760 Vernon Av or phone our non-emergency line at 250 475 4321 to make the report.

    In regards to whether it can be tracked I suggest you contact Apple to enquire if this device offers any such features (I am a bit of a technological caveman). If you are able to provide us with a serial number when you make the report we will be able to match any recovered iPods to you and if you become aware of any recent activity on the iPod through billing from Apple then you should make us aware of that as well so that we can follow up on that information. Lastly, you should contact Margaret in our Property Control office at 250 475 4331. Any recovered items go to Margaret and she will be able to tell you if we have received any iPods recently.

    Hope what’s yours ends up back in your hands, Mackenzie. Take care.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  175. 1814
    Karen, Victoria

    Thank you for your consideration of my parking dispute and subsequent cancellation of the ticket.. I suggest painting the curb yellow alongside the stop sign for the distance required by bylaw will eliminate any future issues.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Karen, I’m glad that worked out.

    I contacted Saanich Engineering Services who, along with the Roads Department, are responsible for which curbs are painted yellow and they invited you to give them a call to discuss which curb you are concerned about. You can reach them at 250 475 5575. Saanich Bylaw #8382 states that “no person shall stop, stand or park a vehicle: … (g) within 6 metres upon the approach to any flashing beacon, stop sign, or traffic control signal located at the side of a roadway.” 

    Thanks for writing in Karen, and have a great day!

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  176. 1813
    Michelle, Saanich

    Hi there,

    I think the new laws regarding impaired driving are a great thing, it got me to wondering though, how can one’s blood alcohol be determined by their breath? This is a ridiculous example, because I can’t see anyone doing it, but, if a person were to take a mouthful of, say, rum, swish it around in their mouths, and then spit it out, and then take a breathalyzer….the alcohol in their breath would be pretty high, but their blood content would be zero. How does that work??

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Michelle, thanks for writing in.

    I agree that the new laws are a good thing. And not only for the impact that they will be sure to have in the future but as well for the thoughts on the topic they seem to be provoking today.

    The reason a breathalyzer can measure the amount of alcohol in a person’s blood is because the air tested is taken from the lungs, not the mouth. The amount of alcohol in air exhaled from the lungs is directly proportionate to the amount of alcohol in the person’s blood. This alcohol has been consumed and absorbed into the person’s bloodstream and some of this alcohol eventually passes from the bloodstream to the lungs. You are correct, that if someone swished some booze around in their mouth, did not swallow, spat it out, and then blew into an ASD (Approved Screening Device or road-side breathalyzer) the result would most likely be a fail while at the same time that person’s blood alcohol content would be zero. However, prior to taking such a road-side test we would wait a few minutes based on how long ago the last drink was consumed or “swished” so that any residual alcohol is gone. As a result of a fail the individual would be brought back to the station to provide further breath samples on the BAC Datamaster. Prior to giving a breath sample on the Datamaster, the individual would be subject to an observation period to ensure that all residual “mouth alcohol” is gone and that the air tested is truly from the lungs, thus giving a true reading of absorbed alcohol only. 

    Hope that makes things a little more clear, Michelle. Have a great night!

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  177. 1812
    Rachelle, View Royal

    Hello,

    I have a question about bicycle safety regarding myself and my children. We live near Admirals Walk and in order to get to the Gorge we need to cross the Craigflower Bridge. I know heading East on the bridge there is a sign that says not to pass bicycles on the bridge. I’m not sure if coming from the other direction if there is one as well…….I took my four year old for a bike ride today (she rides a trail-a-bike attached to the back of my bike) to go on a field trip with her school and heading to the Gorge we were passed once on the bridge and coming back we were passed twice - I’m not talking about creeping past, I’m talking about driving right beside us!! I make a point to drive in the middle of the lane but it just doesn’t seem to work. I am often with my eight year old as well and I’m really starting to worry for our safety while riding across the bridge. What are our options, what are our rights? To walk the bikes across is a real pain because the sidewalk is VERY narrow.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Rachelle, thanks for writing in and I am sorry to hear about the difficulties you are experiencing on the bridge.

    Because the borders to three municipalities meet on that bridge you may have a little more follow-up than expected to address this issue. Any time a driver breaks a motor vehicle act law or municipal bylaw I encourage you to report the licence plate of that vehicle to the police responsible for the area where the offence took place. An officer will be assigned to follow-up with that particular driver. In this case, it gets slightly more complicated because what department you contact depends on where on the bridge the infraction took place. The bridge runs from S/W to N/E. If the offence takes place on the N/E half (Craigflower Elementary side) you contact Saanich Police either at 250 475 4321 or traffic@saanichpolice.ca. Now, believe it or not, the S/W half is split lengthwise between Victoria Police (250 995 7654) on the southern side and View Royal (Westshore RCMP - 250 474 2264) on the northern. But to simplify it a bit, if an offence takes place on the bridge call any one of the three departments and you will be directed from there. You are also welcome to contact the traffic sections of all three departments to request increased attention to this particular problem.

    In addition, you may wish to speak with the engineering departments of View Royal, Victoria, and Saanich to ask if they are aware of this problem and if anything is being considered to solve this issue.

    I hope these avenues will be of some assistance. Enjoy your evening!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  178. 1811
    Marnie, Duncan

    Good morning,

    Could you tell me if it’s illegal to use a small U-Built trailer for hauling dirtbikes which never had wiring hooked up? My husband says it’s okay as long as you use hand signals, I’m not so sure about that. I thought hand signals were only for emergencies if your wiring breaks down.

    Thanks, have a good day!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Marnie, thanks for visiting our website.

    Marnie = 1, husband = 0. :) You are correct. Any trailer that is used on the road has to be registered/insured with a licence plate attached and must have functioning brake lights and signals.

    Happy riding. Have a great night!

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  179. 1810
    Kristen, Saanich

    Hi there,

    I just got back from a walk with my dog in Cuthbert Holmes Park- behind the Tillicum Mall. I noticed on a trail just behind the movie theater in the woods, spray painted on a couple trees, some really offensive anti-semitic and racist writings and symbols. I was shocked to find that there.
    Anyways, I felt I should mention it, as there is obviously some seriously disturbing activity going on there.
    I noticed also the other week that this park is patrolled by bicycle police, it was nice to see that. I wonder if they have noticed this before?

    Thanks for your time,
    regards,
    ~Kristen V

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Kristen, thanks for writing in.

    And thank you for bringing this to our attention. I agree, it is disturbing and very sad. I have forwarded this information on to our bike squads, our intelligence office and to our member who monitors graffiti in Saanich.

    Hope you and your dog continue to enjoy your walks despite the ignorance that you have been subjected to. Take care.

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  180. 1809
    kk, Saanich

    I was covicted for DUI over four years ago. I have obtained my unrestricted licence back this February. I will say that it was a hard, long, and expencive lesson. Happily not only have I learned from my lesson but my friends have also become responsible drivers after hearing my tears and nagging.

    Now my questions are, I have since quit drinking, and gone back to college to get my life on track. I have finished my courses and would like to know if this DUI will show up on my criminal record check if I am applying for office jobs?

    Also, am I able to get a passport and travel outside of Canada with this on my record?

    Besides losing your licence there are many other factors that come into play!

    Thanks for the great forum for asking questions, I agree with the post about trying to get the questions in categories, cause it sure takes a long time to go through them all and I hope that these questions have not already been asked. I only went back a yearish.

    When will it not be on my record anymore?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi KK, I am happy to hear that you are doing so well and that you have turned a negative into a positive, not only for yourself but for those around you as well.

    The conviction will remain on your record until you apply for and are granted a pardon. To apply for a pardon and to learn about the process follow this link to the National Parole Board. You can either complete this process on your own or you can choose to employ a private company to assist you.

    Yes, you can apply for and receive a passport with a criminal record but you may be limited by the record in where you can travel. Contact Passport Canada to learn more. I am providing you with a link to the US Consulate in Vancouver who you may want to contact if you decide to travel to the States to ensure you won’t encounter any trip-ending surprises at the border. They can tell you if you require a waiver to cross their border and if you do, how to obtain one. Should you decide to travel to any other country I suggest you contact the embassy or customs service of that specific country before you pack your bags to make sure you can go.

    And I am sorry about the difficulties visitors to this site have in locating comments related to a specific topic. We are currently considering a website make-over and if and when we do I hope we will be able to provide a search engine at that time. Until then, I wish to thank everyone out there for your patience.

    Hope this is of some help to you, KK. It’s a wide and wonderful world out there and I hope you don’t run into too many obstacles exploring it. Have a great day!

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  181. 1808
    Rob,Langford

    I regularly commute to Victoria by cycle along the Galloping Goose. My daily route usually takes me across Crease Ave where more and more frequenty I am noticing the trail and cross walk partially blocked by parked vehicles. Whatever the distance parking regulations allowed near a cross walk, I am positive these vehicles are not complying. (I have some great pictures but cannot attach to this posting) Regardless of rules, the safety issues are obvious as the line of sight of drivers on Crease and cyclists on the Goose are extremely curtailed. I have discussed the problem with Saanich Traffic engineering. They offered some hopeful suggested courses of action to prevent vehicles from parking in this area in the future. However in the interim, is it possible to give this area a little extra attention to ensure the trail-way stays clear.
    Thank you
    Rob

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Rob,

    Thanks for bringing that problem to our attention. I have forwarded your concern on to Barry Popejoy, our Parking Enforcement Commissionaire (250 475 4264), who will keep an eye on that.

    I looked up our bylaws and it appears that “no person shall stop, stand or park a vehicle: …(e) On a crosswalk. (f) Within 6 metres of the approach side of a crosswalk…(r) On or over a bicycle lane.” You may need to confirm with Saanich Bylaws or Barry (neither were available at the time of this response) that where the Goose crosses a street is in fact considered a crosswalk. I would imagine it does seeing as the Goose is for pedestrians as well.

    Hope that helps and happy riding!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  182. 1807
    callie

    Hi,
    If a person has been classified as a high risk offender, does that classification last forever, or does is get taken off once the person’s sentence has been done?

    Thanks.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Callie, thanks for writing in.

    That’s a difficult question to answer, not knowing which kind of “high risk offender” classification we are talking about (there are different kinds). I spoke with Crown Counsel and they suggest that you give them a call at 250 387 4481. They will be able to tell you the nature of the classification and the details surrounding it.

    I am sorry that I don’t have the answer for you but Crown will. Have a great day!

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  183. 1806
    Michael Saanich

    There was an item in the Saanich News the other day about 2 cyclists being injured by drivers who overtook them and then turned right directly in front of them. The motorists have reportedly been charged with failing to yield and fined $167. My own experience is walking across traffic light junctions where I have priority and yet a driver has driven right into me. He broke the law - result injury to me a minuscule fine to the driver. Very unfair.

    In my mind, failing to yield is not complying with a requirement of the law such as yield, stop on red etc. However, when the driver of a 2 ton SUV fails to control their vehicle safely, breaks the law and then causes personal injury - why is that not deemed dangerous driving? Otherwise, as a pedestrian or cyclists, the costs imposed on an innocent by another careless individual are far out of proportion to the tiny fine they have to pay. It would seem that aggressive drivers running down cyclists and pedestrians see it as a small cost to driving. And we wonder why people don’t want to walk or cycle in our communities?

    It would be a simple directive that all instances of a driver causing injury by their own failure to adhere to laws is automatically charged with dangerous driving - because that is what it is.

    I am interested in the Saanich PD position as the 2 cyclists were in Saanich.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Michael, thanks for visiting our website.

    I can appreciate your concerns. However, dangerous driving or “Dangerous Operation of Motor Vehicle” is a criminal code charge and the circumstances you describe do not meet the criteria to lay such a charge as defined in the Criminal Code of Canada. See section 249 of the CCC and it is helpful to read the annotations to learn about the elements required to lay a charge under this section. You may need to get hold of an actual copy of the Code to read the annotations but they do say, in regards to the manner of driving, that a “mere departure from the standard expected of a reasonably prudent person will meet the threshold for civil negligence but will not be sufficient for penal negligence. The distinction between a mere departure and a marked departure is a question of degree…..It is the manner in which the vehicle was operated that is at issue, not the consequence of the driving.” As well, some kind of criminal intent behind the manner of driving, ie intentionally putting the public at risk, would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict under this section.

    Officers attending such incidents that you describe have a number of options which depend on and are specific to the circumstances of each incident. Violation tickets for Drive Without Due Care ($368), Drive Without Consideration ($196), Fail to Yield ($167) can be issued, to name a few, as well as potential re-testing requests regarding the driver to ICBC, and/or vehicle inspections. And I agree, Michael, that often the resulting costs to the victim often significantly outweigh the costs to the driver, at least initially, but this is where the civil legal process would come into play.

    I hope this is of some service to you and I hope that you and others out there continue to ride, for your individual health and enjoyment as well as for the good of our planet. I do believe that the majority of drivers out there feel the same way and respect the cyclists on the road but I agree that there are still many who need to realize that driving is not a right, and that their ignorance can result in very immediate and tragic consequences.

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  184. 1805
    Vanessa, Saanich

    Hi There

    I am trying to find out updated information on the missing people of the GReater Victoria and surrounding areas. It occurred to me that there have been numerous reports of missing young women lately and I can’t find updated information about them anywhere (ie. are they still missing, are they found, safe, injured etc.?) DOes such a website exist? If not, I think it would be a good idea for a joint task force on the island.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Vanessa, thanks for writing in.

    There are a few websites you can explore. Most focus on missing children but include young women. Try Child Find Canada, Missing Children Society of Canada and Missingpeople.net. There are several links branching off from these sites that you can search as well. I noticed several links on the “Missing People” link specific to women. In addition, there is often a media page of some sort on police department websites where you can find updates as they occur on missing person investigations. Lastly, by going to the online version of the Times Colonist and doing a “missing people” search on their search engine, you can access any articles they may have on the topic as well as links to other related sites. 

    Hope this is of some help and that these sites are informative for you.

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  185. 1804
    Derek, Saanich

    The other day I was involved in, and responsible for, a crash in which I rear ended the car in front of me. Not to make excuses, but it had just began raining very heavily, and when the car in front of my slammed on his brakes I didn’t have enough room to come to a complete stop. I recognize my error as following too closely. More space would have allowed me to stop in time. However, the Saanich officer that attended the scene issued me a “drive without due care” ticket. As I understand, this ticket applies more to drivers applying lipstick, attempting to eat soup, reading a book while driving etc. OR a combination of 3 of: following too closely, speeding, not signalling, not staying in correct lane etc. I was polite, calm, respectful, and co-operative, so I don’t see why the officer would give me this heavy charge on top of all the car work I need to pay for, and being a young already broke guy, I absolutely cannot afford this ticket. Because he did not even see the crash happen, why was he able to issue me a ticket that, from my research, is only given out to reckless drivers, not for simply following too close. MY ICBC representative also said I should have been given a “following too closely” ticket. What’s true, what’s false?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Derek, thanks for writing in. I am sorry to hear about the crash and I hope everyone involved is well.

    To have your question best answered you should speak with the officer who issued you the ticket. Neither myself nor an ICBC representative should comment on that as we weren’t there. There can be circumstances in a “rear-ender” scenario when “Drive Without Due Care” is appropriate. I spoke with a member from the Traffic Safety Unit and we are not aware of any absolute criteria, such as you mention above, regarding the issuing of a “Drive Without Due Care” ticket. Simply give us a call at 250 475 4321 and ask to speak with the officer or his voicemail. You can find the officer’s identification number on the ticket. If you aren’t satisfied with his explanation or you don’t wish to speak with that officer you can always ask to speak with his supervisor and/or dispute the ticket (all the instructions on how to dispute are on the back). Such a discussion may be helpful to you.

    Hope it works out to your satisfaction. Drive safe and take care.

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  186. 1803
    Mike, Saanich

    Hi,

    I’ve been reading about some cases in the last few years of people being arrested for refusing to provide identification, such as one recently in Seattle. I’ve had a hard time finding out whether in BC (Saanich in particular) a citizen must legally provide identification to a police officer if asked (while not, for instead, driving a car, in which case obviously you need to show a driver’s licence). Could you please answer this question for me, or point me to the applicable section(s) of law? I’m speaking of things like Terry Stops, or stop-and-identify laws.

    Thanks,

    Mike

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mike, thanks for your question.

    I can’t speak to any laws in the US but in Canada, regardless of where in Canada, one must provide their name and particulars to a police officer upon that officer’s request when that individual is a subject of a police investigation, regardless of whether that investigation falls under municipal, provincial or federal statutes. As you are aware, the term “Terry Stop” stems from American case law where the officer had already entered into a reasonable investigation before he made his demand of identity and conducted the search. Similarly, here in Canada, an officer needs to be able to justify why such a demand was made. We can’t arbitrarily demand that a citizen provide their identity without legal reason.

    Hope that answers your question, Mike, and thanks for writing in.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  187. 1802
    Ian, Nanaimo

    I’m sorry if this isn’t the place to ask, but I was curious what rights the community has in reference to privacy via our license plate numbers. For example, if parking in a paid parking area without a permit, how are these private companies able to issue us government enforceable tickets?

    I can see how they would have the right to tow our vehicle off the property but cannot see how they are able to get our personal information in order to issue a ticket. If i phone ICBC with little more than a license plate number I would not be able to receive a name and address.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ian, thanks for visiting our website and don’t apologize, all questions are welcome. Not sure if all will be answered but I will try!

    I spoke with a representative from a local company who advised that they have an agreement in place with ICBC allowing the company access to registered owner information. I would imagine that most of these companies have the same system in place. This representative went on to say that these terms and conditions are posted on signs located at their lots and by parking in any of their lots you are subject to these terms. Tickets issued by private companies are not “government enforceable” and any upaid fines are pursued through civil channels.  

    Hope that clears things up, Ian, and I hope you have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  188. 1801
    Stephen, Saanich

    A couple of days ago, I saw the movie “Kick ass” and it made me want to ask this question. My question is how would the police departement react to someone trying to fight crime illegally by themselves (vigilante style)? Would you try to stop them?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Stephen, thanks for writing in.

    It would be great if we could flash a “bat signal” to the sky whenever we need a hand, however this is not the reality. The answer is in your question. If anyone is doing anything “illegally” we will try to stop them.

    I haven’t seen “Kick Ass” ( I would like to, it looks funny), but I’m not sure that any potential local “superheroes” would be so keen after their first taste of the resulting paperwork and lawsuits. :)

    Hope you enjoyed the movie, Stephen, and hope you have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  189. 1800
    Mike, Langford

    Can you please let the young blond driving the ** removed by site administrator ** it’s not a good idea, let alone illegal to apply her makeup while driving on the TCH between the Old Island Hwy and McKenzie this morning at 7:50am.

    That might reduce a crash.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mike, thanks for visiting our website.

    I will contact this driver and discuss with her the dangers of such a habit. However, for future reference, this site is not intended nor designed to receive complaints of this nature. To make such a report please call our non-emergency line at 250 475 4321 or email us at traffic@saanichpolice.ca. That way we can obtain your particulars and receive a detailed statement from you describing the incident.

    Thanks for getting in touch with us and I hope you enjoy your day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  190. 1799
    Robert, Saanich

    There are a lot of illegally parked vehicles, constantly parked on the 4000 block of Rainbow Street. I am concerned that someday, an emergency vehicle will not be able to pass through. Marge from Bylaws said to contact you. Can you do anything about these vehicles? It is a public road, after all. Please advise. Thanks in advance.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Robert, thanks for writing in.

    I have forwarded your concern on to Barry Popejoy, the Parking Enforcement Commissionaire for Saanich. If he is not already aware of the problem he will be sure to look into the matter in the very near future. I would also encourage you to report the problem when it is happening by phoning our non-emergency line at 250 475 4321. During business hours Barry would be assigned. Outside of business hours a patrol/traffic member would be assigned.

    Hope the matter is resolved soon. Take care.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  191. 1798
    Petra, Saanich

    Hi, I have a question about drinking and driving. I hardly ever drink other than maybe the very odd cooler in the summertime. Last summer, I was sitting and reading a book in my vehicle in the park, waiting to pick my son up from work. It was a hot day, and I was parched. The only thing I had available was a 4-pack of coolers I had bought earlier. I really wanted one just because I was so thirsty, but didn’t because I wasn’t sure if having one cooler and then driving directly thereafter would put someone over the limit. I have been curious ever since as to whether or not that would have been allowable.

    (Of course, I do know that you shouldn’t be having a drink in a public place, but my question is whether that would put one over the limit?)

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Petra, thanks for writing in.

    You made the right decision, based on the circumstances. You are correct, drinking in public is against the law as is open liquor in a vehicle. Whether the cooler would have put you over the limit is impossible to say. This would have depended on a number of factors such as age, body composition, metabolism, medication etc. Generally speaking, one drink, ie one cooler, glass of wine etc, translates to 20-25 milligrams blood alcohol content. The ASD (Approved Screening Device or roadside breathalyzer) reads “pass” with breath samples of 0-49 milligrams blood alcohol content. Even with a pass, there can be cases where an officer can issue a 24 hour suspension if that officer has reasonable grounds to believe that the individual’s ability to operate a motor vehicle is impaired by drugs or alcohol.

    Like yourself, I rarely drink but I know from experience that on a hot day, particularly after exercise and on an empty stomach I will feel the effects of a single beer or cooler much more than normal and even though my reading may be a “pass” on an ASD my ability to operate a motor vehicle is still impaired.

    Summer is coming (rejoice!) but with all the fun in the sun that comes with summer, so do the temptations you described. Let’s hope everyone makes the same decision you did. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  192. 1797
    Jo, Saanich

    Is it legal for a person to ride their dirt bike on their own property? What can neighbours do about it? Where can I find more information regarding my questions?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jo, thanks for your question.

    Yes, it is legal for an individual to ride their dirt bike on their own property. Of course, by doing so one may up the chances of a noise complaint or a mischief complaint if dirt is being sprayed over onto a neighbour’s property. To discuss this in more detail feel free to give the Saanich Bylaws office a call at 250 475 5456.

    I hope, if this is a current problem for you Jo, that a resolution is found soon.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  193. 1796
    Michael Saanich

    Cycling question: I see a significant percentage of people cycling wearing ear buds and listening to music. Is this illegal or just plain stupid? Frankly - the same with pedestrians listening to music and being unaware of their surroundings. Unfortunately, pedestrians are probably not held to the same requirements and Darwinian evolution (and hearing loss) will eventually deal with them, but I understood the law restricted the wearing of earphones etc. when driving or walking. Time for an enforcement campaign?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Michael, thanks for writing in.

    Surprisingly, it is not illegal to operate a motor vehicle or bicycle while wearing ear buds. However, if it is determined that the driver/cyclist committed a Motor Vehicle Act infraction as a result of impeded hearing, ie failing to yield to an emergency vehicle, then that operator could be fined for driving or cycling without due consideration in addition to any associated offence.

    I agree, when driving or cycling and even at times when walking we need to be as undistracted as possible in order to be as safe as possible, not only for the safety of the person “tuned out” but for all those sharing the road with that individual as well.

    Thanks for your comments, Mike, and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  194. 1795
    Chris, Saanich

    is the collection of polcie badges legal? say you have badges from us agencies and international agencies…?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Chris, thanks for visiting our website.

    No, it is not illegal to collect badges. Of course, the manner in which a badge is used can be illegal, ie personation of a peace officer. There are a number of private companies that sell collector badges on the internet and I believe some departments may provide collector badges as well. Saanich Police does not provide badges to the public but we will provide a member of the public with one of our shoulder patches upon request.

    Take care, Chris, and have a great day.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  195. 1794
    Chelu, Victoria

    Hi,

    I have a Sport Motorbike and i have changed the stock lights with aftermarket parts. I have the same options (signals, licence plate light) and are very visible. I was stoped and given a ticket for my licence plate. The police officer said it could not see it and because he said i had no licence plate light. The licence plate is very visible and i do have a licence plate light. The lincence plate was moved since i don’t have the original part on the bike. What are the regulation that you guys look at when it comes to licence plates locations?

    Thank you

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Chelu, thanks for writing in.

    I am providing you with a link to the BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulations. Division 3 pertains to the display and use of plates. Division 4 pertains to lamps. Hope it helps explain where everything should be. Section 4.16 states that the lamp must illuminate the plate to the point that it can be read from a distance of 15 metres to the rear.

    On a motorbike there are very limited options as to where that plate can go. If I understood you correctly I take it you moved the plate from it’s factory position. Does the licence plate lamp still illuminate the plate? You are welcome to get in touch with the officer who issued the ticket if you still have questions about it. On the ticket the officer would have provided his identification number. All you would need to do is call his department and ask for his voicemail.

    Your recent setback aside, I wish you happy and safe riding. Hope it’s a long summer with plenty of open road!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  196. 1793
    Tom, SW Saanich

    I did the Police Officer Physical Assessement Test (POPAT) in Saanich last year.

    Years ago, I was a physical trainer. Specificity is the key word here in my opinion.

    Train as closely as possible to the actual test. It is well within the reach of an

    “average” person. I was 47 years old and reasonably fit at the time. I trained very

    specifically for the test and did alright. It wasn’t easy, but what worth doing is?

    Good luck.

    -Tom

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tom! Good to hear from you. Hope you are well.

    I agree with you in regards to specificity. Regardless of how fit one is, one can still find certain aspects of the course tricky only because certain portions of the test may involve movements unfamiliar to the applicant, ie the “push/pull” exercise. Of course, the more fit you are, the easier it will be to adjust but if you have trained in POPAT-specific exercises the more of an advantage you will have. Thanks very much for your comment, Tom, and I’m sure any applicants or future applicants out there thank you as well.

    Happy Friday!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  197. 1792
    Anthony, Saanich

    RE: POPAT

    Hey guys,

    In regards to the POPAT. What I have suggested to people is to get into a cross fit program. Cross fit provides maximum heartrate cardio and also includes a variety of strength exercises in a circuit much like the POPAT. General strength workouts are good but don’t include that explosive type workout that you get with a crossfit program. There are a few gyms in Victoria if you google it. Good Luck in your career goals!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Anthony.

    Thanks very much for writing in and sharing your insight. I’m enjoying seeing such genuine support for and among our applicants. I still remember going through the application process myself and how grateful I was for any help along the way.

    Hope you have a fantastic weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire 

  198. 1791
    MD Saanich

    If a non licenced driver is driving a car and damages it are they still liable for the damage even if on a public road. I assume they wouldn’t get in trouble for driving a car under suspension if you are on private property weather it be your or someon elses?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi MD, thanks for writing in.

    A non-licensed driver would be liable for any damages incurred on a public road. Any insurance claims made by that driver would most likely be denied as he or she is driving without a license. That driver would also be subject to the laws and applicable charges/fines under both the Motor Vehicle Act and/or the Criminal Code. The Motor Vehicle Act applies to vehicles driven on a highway which is defined as;

    …”Highway” includes

    A) every highway within the meaning of the Transportation Act,

    B) every road, street, lane or right of way designed or intended for or used by the general public for the passage of vehicles, and

    C) every private place or passageway to which the public, for the purpose of the parking or servicing of vehicles, has access or is invited,

    but does not include and industrial road…

    In regards to private property, the laws of the Motor Vehicle Act do not apply however the laws of the Criminal Code, ie impaired driving, do. And of course, the property owner or designated authority (private or public) can always pursue civil proceedings against the driver, licensed or not.

    Hope that answers your question, MD, and I hope you have a great weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  199. 1790
    Richard J

    Hello, I work for Saanich but live in Langford my concern is about my street we live on . Nobody knows the answer or can help me.Years ago our street use to connect with the highways then they turned it into a dead end street the speed limit was posted many years ago and was 50 km use to be only handful of houses on it then construction boom and probably about 40 or more know with a school at opposite end of highway .Heres my concern drivers speeding up and down doing over 50 at times and loud muffler on a certain truck what can we do if we have our window opened and this certain truck drives by I cant even hear the TV its not a stock muffler its been modified we need something done before someone gets hit by a speeding car or when someone gets mad at this guy with his muffler . thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Richard, thanks for visiting our website.

    I am sorry to hear your street isn’t as peaceful as it should be. I have a couple of suggestions. First, you should contact the City of Langford and speak with the Bylaws Department to inform yourself on Langford bylaws and whether or not “muffler man” is contravening any of them and whether or not their enforcement officers follow-up on such complaints. Second, speak with the Engineering Department if you feel the amount and speed of traffic is a concern on the road and/or better signage is required. Perhaps they would consider speed bumps or something to that effect. And lastly, you can contact Westshore RCMP to report speeders and noise complaints. You would have to be able to provide a license plate so that the officer assigned has something to follow-up on.

    Hope this is of some help to you, Richard. Enjoy the weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  200. 1789
    Tony

    Can you be a police officer if you have a criminal record for which you’ve been pardoned for?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tony, thanks for writing in.

    Yes, one can become a police officer with a pardoned criminal record. Of course, each application is reviewed individually and we would take into consideration the nature of the offence, the circumstances surrounding the offence, and everything the applicant has done to move on from that particular point in the applicant’s life.

    Tony, I have provided you with a link to the Recruiting pages of our website for your consideration. On these pages, in addition to useful information regarding the application process, you will find Sgt. Dean Duthie’s contact info. Feel free to touch base with Dean so that you can discuss the matter in more detail.

    All the best to you!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  201. 1788
    Adrienne, Victoria

    Re: Lindsay 1787

    Lindsay! Congratulations on your successful run of the POPAT! I have nothing but respect for you, and wish you all the best for the rest of your process.

    Thank you for your helpful suggestions. I had also hired a personal trainer from Oak Bay, and did the POPAT course for my test before last…..for my next test, I decided to take it into my own hands (way to go Adrienne) and did not participate in the POPAT course that time around….but, you live you learn…I’ll sign myself up again because I do think it was beneficial.

    Cst. Dukeshire, thank you for bringing it to my attention that there was someone who wanted to help me out! She’s going to make a great Police Officer one day!

    Take care,
    Adrienne

  202. 1787
    Lindsay. Saanich

    Re:
    1784
    Adrienne, Victoria

    I am a current applicant as well, and I understand how challenging the POPAT can be for women. I participated in a POPAT prep class at Oak Bay Recreation that I found to be extremely valuable in helping me to pass the test. I also worked with a trainer based out of Oak Bay rec, and she really helped me to focus in on how to build the strength that us ladies need to pass the POPAT. I don’t know that this site allows recommendations for programs, but I think Adrienne would find the class to be very helpful and a lot of fun.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Lindsay, nice to hear from you.

    Thanks very much for taking the time to help a fellow applicant out. I will email Adrienne and give her a heads up to your comments. I am sure she will really appreciate it.

    Congratulations on your success with the POPAT and may your success continue throughout the application process!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  203. 1786
    Chris, Aldergrove

    hello my name is chris ** removed by site administrator **

    i have just started collecting police department patches and i am wondering if it is possible for
    you to mail me a patch from your police department.

    here’s my address

    ** removed by site administrator **

    thanks
    well talk to you later

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Chris, hope you are well.

    It will be our pleasure to mail that patch off to you right away. Thanks very much for visiting our website and for including us in your collection.

    Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  204. 1785
    Anne-Marie, Victori

    Here is a scam email I received….wondering if you want to add it to your list of latest scams:

    Attention: Beneficiary,

    Payment Reference Batch No: ** removed by site administrator **

    United nation (UN) services here in London, United Kingdom have approved a social security payment to various nations due to high rate of unemployment / healthcares reform, in reference to the fact that United nation is reimbursing all Social Security tax withheld from various citizens. Your social security number is attached to the payment batch number ** removed by site administrator ** .

    The total amount valued at SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS ONLY ($670,000.00) had been approved to you by united nation under social security service department.

    Re-confirm your Social Security claimant of above reference batch number by submitting your following contact information to the “Social Security Administration Service Representative” who is in charge of your payment.

    FULL NAME:
    ADDRESS:
    MOBILE / TELEPHONE:
    FAX:
    DATE OF BIRTH:
    OCCUPATION:

    Social Security Administration Service Representative;

    ** removed by site administrator **

    He is available to instruct you and make sure that your payment gets to you. Your payment will be process within 2 working days on receipt of your full information and you will be notify the transferring bank information that will credit the fund into your designated bank account.

    Get back to us for any further clarifications.

    Caution; Social Security Administration Service Representative; will not give any information by phone call for security reason protecting various beneficiaries of the payment.

    Best Regard

    ** removed by site administrator **
    London , United Kingdom

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Anne-Marie,

    Thanks for writing in and for taking the time to bring this email to our attention. I will forward this on to our Financial Crimes Section so that they are aware of it. And sadly I agree with you, I don’t believe you will be $670,000 richer in the near future. At least not as a result of this email.

    I have removed some of the emails content on the one in a million chance that anyone named in it is a bonafide and innocent person or business. I am also providing a link to our “Current Scams” page on our website. I encourage anyone out there to have a look. Our Financial Crimes Section updates this page with current scams that they are aware of and the page provides links to agencies that monitor email, letter and telephone frauds.

    Thanks again, Anne-Marie. Hope you a have a great night!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  205. 1784
    Adrienne, Victoria

    Dear Cst. Dukeshire,

    I ran the POPAT yesterday for Victoria Police. I had run it before six months ago, and struggled with the 6-foot jump and the push/pull machine. When I ran it yesterday, my cardio was very good, and I did not have a problem with the pulling aspect of the machine….but as for the pushing, that proved to be very difficult.
    Needless to say I did not make it the second time around either. This was quite upsetting, because if you don’t make it the second time, you are deferred for a year.
    I can’t see myself doing anything but Police work, so if I have to wait a year, I’ll wait a year…..but…..when you are deferred for a year with Victoria, does this also mean I’d be deferred from doing the POPAT with Saanich too? I just want to be a Police Officer….whether it’s in Victoria, Saanich, or on the moon! I just don’t think it’s going to take a whole year before I’m ready…..what I felt, during the exam… was a need for a little tweaking in the strength of my arms and core….and that should take 6 months, tops.

    What would you suggest?
    Thank you very much!

    Adrienne

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Adrienne, hope you are well.

    I am sorry to hear about your recent setbacks but I am glad that you remain determined and motivated. To have your questions best answered you should speak with Sgt. Dean Duthie, in Staff Development, at 250 475 4334 or DDUTHIE@Saanichpolice.ca. Dean will be able to tell you if your Victoria POPAT impacts our process at all and as well he may have some valuable insight to share with you on how to best train for it. It’s always good to have a running dialogue with any staff development section as you progress in the application process.

    And make sure to visit the Recruiting pages on our website to familiarize yourself with our recruiting procedures and standards. Unfortunately, Dean is away this week on a course but will be returning to his office on Monday and will be able to chat with you then.

    I wish you all the best in your endeavours, Adrienne. Hope to be working alongside you one day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  206. 1783
    Citizen, Saanich

    Hello, here’s an interesting question which I’m sure has plagued many a concerned citizen… the right to defence of self and property.

    First question: is it true that if an offender breaks into your house, then subsequently slips and falls injuring himself, he has the right to sue the homeowner?

    Second question: what force can be used to remove an offender from your home in that circumstance? what if the offender is armed with a weapon?

    Lets imagine for a second an extremely unlikely scenario: you just get home from the shooting range and while in the process of cleaning your firearm, a perp breaks down you front door, and comes at you with a knife. Clearly, the logical person would do what is obvious, however from a legal point of view, this is what concerns me.

    thanks for your time

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Citizen, thanks for writing in.

    I have provided you with a link to the sections in the Canadian Criminal Code that give you the authority to use “as much force as is reasonably necessary” when defending yourself. Have a read of Sections 27, 34, 37, 40 and 41, all of which are under Part 1. These sections answer your second question as well as your scenario. I don’t want to get too involved in scenarios because I would hate for there to be any kind of misunderstanding between us. But in regards to your scenario, remember you must transport and store ammunition separate from the firearm. :)

    To answer your first question, I too have heard of such things, but believe that the success of such claims are greatly exaggerated. Sadly, I don’t doubt that similar lawsuits take place from time to time, considering the litigious leanings of our culture, but I still have faith that for the most part reason will prevail.

    Hope the above mentioned link is of some help. The Criminal Code details your rights far more concisely than I am able to. Just know that the laws do not “hamstring” your ability to defend yourself.

    Enjoy your evening.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  207. 1782
    Beverly - Saanich

    I looked for your Residential Survey link (as per your letter) but could not find it!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Beverly, thanks for writing in and thank you for participating in this survey. Your thoughts will be of much assistance to us as we develop the 2011-2015 Saanich Police Strategic Plan.

    I am sorry that you had difficulty in finding the survey. Please follow this link to the Residential Survey.

    For our other readers out there, the main link is on the home page of our website, centre page, named “Strategic Plan Community Surveys”. By clicking on this link, you will be brought to the surveys page where you can read a letter from Mayor Leonard and Chief Constable Chadwick addressed to the residents and business owners of Saanich. This letter explains the purpose of these surveys and the process involved. You will have the option of participating in either the Residential or Business Survey, or both. The links are in the left hand column. Or if you prefer, you can call 250 475 4365 to make arrangements to receive a paper copy.

    Again, we thank you in advance for your assistance in helping us develop this Strategic Plan.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  208. 1781
    Curious,Saanich

    Hi there,

    i am just curious about the Media Releases section on your website. Every now and then you guys post a recent story about an arrest or about some incident that happens, and then a certain amount of time passes and the article is removed completely with no trace whatsoever, it’s even impossible to find in a cached or archived google site….Why is this? i know it’s not because the charges are dropped, what other reason could there be?

    Thank you

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Curious. Thanks for writing in.

    I just spoke with Sgt. John Price, our Public Information Officer, about your question. John advises that for the most part, we only post media releases for approximately one month. Our web designer suggested we not post them any longer due to storage space. If John feels a release has a “timeless” aspect to it then that release will be moved to the archive page. There are number of releases currently on the media release page that have extended past a month and will eventually be brought over to the archive page. John also mentioned that a release may be updated from time to time, as relevant developments occur. 

    Thanks for your interest and for visiting our website!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  209. 1780
    Ken, Saanich

    Hello,

    A question with respect to the Saanich noise bylaw: If one lives in an apartment/ townhouse, or a building with multiple suites, and there is disturbing noise(such as loud music) confined to inside the building between units, will police respond to complaints? I am referring to circumstances regarding renters with neighboring tenants.

    Thank you for any pertinent info!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ken, thanks for writing in.

    Yes, as long as the disturbance is taking place in Saanich, you can call us to report the complaint. Simply call the non-emergency line (250 475 4321) and we will attend to address the problem. Have patience, as all of our calls for service are prioritized in relation to urgency so our response time may vary depending on whatever is happening in Saanich at the time.

    As well, if this is an ongoing problem you would be wise to document each incident (ie nature of disturbance, date/time, duration). A written history can be of assistance when speaking with the police, a landlord or the Residential Tenancy Branch.

    Hope we can be of service to you and I hope your night is a peaceful one.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire 

  210. 1779
    Carol, Saanich

    Last week a small dog was hit by several cars on the Pat Bay Highway near Elk Lake. Not one of the cars that hit the dog pulled over when safe to do so. Is it not illegal to not safely pull over and assist an injured animal? It is in some states in the U.S. What are the laws here, please.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Carol, I appreciate your concern.

    Unfortunately, there is no law under the BC Motor Vehicle Act nor the Criminal Code of Canada that directs a driver to provide assistance to an animal injured as a result of an accident.  I have provided a link to Section 68 of the MVA which details the duties of a driver involved in an accident. This section does lay out the driver’s responsibilities when damaging property, but property is not defined and I doubt an animal would qualify.

    I can understand people not being bound legally to assist an injured animal, at least directly, as this could put the person in danger, both from passing traffic and the animal itself. But I would hope, out of decency, that a driver would at least make immediate attempts to contact the owner of the animal or the local police so that we and/or pound officers could attend to assist. I know how grateful I would be if someone had accidentally injured my pet and was caring enough to stop and help in whatever capacity that person felt comfortable with.

    Thanks for writing in, Carol, and I hope you enjoy the weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  211. 1778
    Leslie, Campbell River

    Good Morning! Regarding the number of passengers a ‘N’ driver can have…What is the penalty of having too many passengers? Is it the officers’ discretion? What about insurance? Is there still full coverage if an accident were to occur while having one too many passengers? I know the restriction does not apply to family members in the vehicle, only unrelated passengers or friends. Thank you - Love this site.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Leslie, thanks for writing in and for your compliments to this site.

    The penalty for too many passengers for a “N” driver falls under Section 25(15) of the BC Motor Vehicle Act, “Drive contrary to restriction”, with a fine of $167. There may be circumstances that would allow the officer some discretion but for the most part this law is enforced. As for insurance, a driver in this instance would most likely not be covered. I spoke with a local insurance broker who advised that when a driver is operating outside of the limits of his or her driver’s license, then any claims made from that person would most likely be denied.

    You are already familiar with it, Leslie, but I have provided a link to Section 30.071, Passenger Restrictions for Class 7 Licence (Motor Vehicle Act Regulations) for the ease of any readers out there that might need a refresher.

    Happy Friday and I hope all is well in Campbell River!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  212. 1777
    Rob

    I just saw something that has me very upset. I was on the #11 bus from tillicum mall to downtown. About 4:45, a man bordered the bus, swiped his bus pass, it did not go through. The driver took the guys pass and would not give it back to him. he asked the driver for it back and the driver refused. the driver then asked him to exit the bus the man refused to do so until the driver gave him back his pass. The driver then said “I will contact the police if you do not exit the bus”. The man said “go ahead I have done nothing wrong why don’t you give me my bus pass back”. Artound 10 to 15 min. later a police car arived the man got off the buss with his hands in the air. Some word were said, I could not under stand them, the man still had his hand in the air. He was then slamed into a bus bench and kneed in the ribs 3 time, HARD!!!. I am fairly sure he got the point after #1 if it was needed at all. What kind of city do we live in? The guy had no visible wepon, as far as I saw or heard he made no threats.
    Yet his body was extremly violated by the men we are suposed to trust. I have watched the news and saw the police kicking a guy it was bad, this was worse way worse. I am now afraid, what if this situatiuon happens to me, bus driver take my bus pass for some reason, I don’t agree!! This has to stop, I dont want To be afraid to stand up for myself. Everybody is inocent until proven guilty.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Rob, thanks for writing in.

    I am sorry to hear you are upset. I can understand as nobody wishes to witness what you witnessed, regardless of whether the officers actions were justified or not.

    I tried to find the file you were referring to but it is difficult if I don’t know whether it happened in Saanich or Victoria, or on what street, or how the call was classified. I checked all reports in Saanich that took place yesterday at that time of day and in that area but was unable to find any that match. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, I was just unable to locate it or the jurisdiction was Victoria.

    Without knowing the circumstances it is difficult for me to comment on what happened. Neither yourself nor myself know what information the officers had been presented with. Nor do we know, as you mentioned, what was said between the man and the officers. We do not know who this man was, whether he was known to police and/or whether he was known to carry weapons. Simply because a man has his hands in the air (which is a strange manner of behaviour if not ordered to do so) does not mean he is being compliant. If officers were ordering him to the ground, again because of information that you and I aren’t privy to, and he was not doing so then the officers first priority is to control him physically for his safety, the safety of the public and that of the officers. But we must understand that this is all speculation and that the best way to get to the bottom of what happened would be for you to contact the police department involved.

    What I would suggest, Rob, is to contact the Professional Standards office of the department responsible for where this took place, ie Victoria or Saanich Police. That section would investigate the matter to determine if what took place was appropriate or not. You can reach the Saanich Police Professional Standards Office by phone at 250 475 4313 (S/Sgt. Kelly Dukeshire) or 250 475 4363 (Sgt. Stephanie Edwards) or by email at PSO@Saanichpolice.ca. You can reach the Victoria Police Professional Standards Unit by calling 250 995 7654 and asking for the PSU section. If you aren’t comfortable in contacting either department feel free to contact the Office of the Police Complaint Commissioner to lodge your complaint. The OPCC “provides impartial civilian oversight of complaints regarding municipal police.”

    Lastly, regarding the driver holding the bus pass, the driver most likely had the authority to do so but to explore that concern I have provided you with a link to the BC Transit website. Speak with a BC Transit representative who should be able to tell you what the driver’s responsibilities and authorities are in relation to confiscating a pass.

    I threw a lot at you there, Rob, but abuse of police authority is a very serious matter. I hope you look into this incident. You would be kept informed as the investigation proceeds and as well on how it concludes. I know it is easy for me to say, but try not to lose any trust you may have in us before you are properly educated on the incident in question. I hope this helps and I hope you are having a better day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  213. 1776
    Dawn, Victoria

    I regularly check your site as it is both enjoyable and informative. Good job Saanich Police!
    As a general question; without regard to CRD jurisdiction, how would one solve an awkward problem with a neighbour who smokes marijuana outside of his rented home such that prevailing winds blow second hand smoke into my home(a major factor in my discomfort). I am a homeowner and I also cannot enjoy my yard and garden as the smell of marijuana is always in the air. It is of note, that he is known to a local police department with a conviction for production of a controlled substance. Any suggestions? We’ve tried dealing with the landlord with no results other than the neighbour telling us that we are going to regret ever being born.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Dawn, thanks for writing in and for your kind words regarding this site.

    I am sorry to hear that fate has provided you with such a disrespectful neighbour. It is a common complaint and not an easy one to quickly remedy as no matter what the landlord or police do, the individual causing the problem will most likely remain inconsiderate.

    I would suggest, as possession of marijuana for the most part is illegal, to contact your local police department when the problem is occurring. Officers would attend and try to address the issue with your neighbour. Of course, you would need to be comfortable in doing so as you are the one that would continue to reside next to this person after the police leave. Document every time this problem occurs so that when and if you do call the police you have a history to present to them. As well, be sure to mention the veiled threat when you speak with the police so that they are aware of how he has responded to you. 

    There may be no harm in contacting the Residential Tenancy Branch as well, if only to learn what the landlord’s responsibilities are, if any, in a situation like this.

    I know it’s not a magic wand answer but I hope it’s of some help. Have a great weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  214. 1775
    john, saanich

    I passed a number of police cars surrounding a transit bus on Ring Road at Uvic Wednesday morning. Any information on what was going on?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi John.

    I just checked our files and see that we attended Ring Road near the McPherson Library in response to a collision involving a BC Transit bus yesterday at approx 9:15 am. There were some minor injuries involved so you may have seen several members in attendance providing traffic control, helping those injured and assisting BC Transit supervisors who were present to document the scene.

    Thanks for writing in John, and have a great night!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

     

     

  215. 1774
    Joyce, 100 Mile House

    Hi, I was curious about something, and hoping that it’s ok for “out of towners” to post on here as well.
    When watching tv shows, it seems that the “techies” are able to cross-reference anything when it comes to criminal activity. Is it like that in the real world, for instance, if there is an arson in, say, Pemberton, would they run a search of all known arsonists in BC to try to track down the offender?

    Thank-you for this great forum!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Joyce,

    Thanks for writing in and yes, we are happy and honoured to have anyone visit our website, regardless of where they call home.

    We do possess some of the tools and capabilities that you would see on TV but I wouldn’t take anything you see on TV as the gospel when it comes to police work and how we go about our business.

    If you have questions regarding how we would investigate something, ie to use your example of arson, you are welcome to contact myself at KDCDUKESHIRE@Saanichpolice.ca or on my direct line at 250 475 4324. I would be happy to discuss the topic further with you.

    Have a great day, Joyce, and thanks for visiting our website!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

     

  216. 1773
    Joanne, Saanich

    When a person gets pulled over, does their entire driving and criminal history come up when the officer does a search with their driver’s license? Or only if he specifically asks for that information? Or does it depend on the practices of each specific detachment?
    Thank-you

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Joanne, thanks for writing in. You aren’t pulled over right now, are you? :)

    Generally, officers try to run the plate of the vehicle before that vehicle is pulled over. By running that plate, the officer will get vehicle registration, driver’s license and criminal history information associated to the registered owner of that vehicle. For officer safety reasons, we want to be aware of this information before walking up to the driver. Often the driver is not the registered owner so that officer will then have to conduct these searches after determining who the driver is. I believe this is fairly common practice among all departments out there.

    Hope that answers your question. Have a great and hopefully traffic-stop-free day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  217. 1772
    Adrian, Saanich

    First, I would like to know if there is a municipal by-law regarding pellet guns, and if they are banned within the District.

    Second, does the Department have crime statistics by neighbourhood or general area? That is, is it possible to find out which areas of Saanich experience different levels of crime and types of crime?

    Third, I would like to thank all members of the police department for their ongoing professionalism and hard work; I recently interacted with a few police near Oakmount Road on April 1st (after a bomb threat investigation closed off my street), and both were sociable, funny, and very professional. Good work!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Adrian, thanks for writing in.

    First, it is not illegal to own a pellet gun in Saanich but it is illegal to discharge one within Saanich. See the link to Saanich Municipal Bylaw #8092, “To Regulate the Discharge of Firearms and Bows“ for more details.

    Second, visit the “Property Crime Statistics” page on our website for details regarding property crime stats and locations. If you are interested in further stats that this page does not show contact Cst. Petra Dornblut (Crime Prevention/Community Liaison) at 250 475 4346. I believe Petra is away from the office this week but should be returning next week.

    And third, thank you for your kind words and support. We, as police officers, are very fortunate to serve a community such as Saanich and to interact with the quality of people that work and live here.

    Hope you have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  218. 1771
    Carol, Saanich

    Firstly, I give my thanks to all the officers of the Saanich Police Department for the fine job they do.

    I manage a seniors apartment complex and there have been individuals and businesses who have been dumping their garbage in our garbage bins and on the ground. My question is what can be done about this? It seems to me that this is “theft of services”. Is this the case?
    Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Carol. Thank you for your “thank you”. :) You are more than welcome.

    You are right, this is a form of theft/mischief. If your garbage bins are on private property then you can give us a call to report the problem (250 475 4321). If there is evidence that points us to a specific suspect(s) then an officer will be assigned to follow up with that individual(s). If there are no leads for us to follow then we can at least have a report on file to document the history. If there are no leads, and as inconvenient as this may be, you may want to consider locking the bins or installing cameras and/or motion activated lights in the area as a deterrent. If the garbage bins are situated on public property then this would be a bylaw issue. You can reach the Saanich Bylaw Office at 250 475 5456.

    I hope that helps and I hope whoever is doing this learns to respect your property and the fact that this practice is costing you money. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  219. 1770
    concerned neighbour, saanich

    What should one do if they are concerned about the activities of their neighbor? These particular people have done nothing wrong and as far as I know haven’t broken any laws so call it intuition but something seems very wrong. I don’t want to get into any details on line but was wondering how someone could go about telling the police of their concerns? It’s a fine line between intruding and genuine concern for my own family and the neighborhood. You are always advised to know your neighbors and I don’t think anyone around here knows anything about this family. I would hate to be the person that reads about a crime occurring right under their nose and never having said or done anything. Please advise.
    Thanks.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Concerned Neighbour,

    You are welcome to attend the Saanich Police Department located at 760 Vernon Av anytime of the day, seven days a week, to discuss your concerns with an officer. When you come in, ask for privacy so that you aren’t forced to discuss the matter in public. You may have to wait a few minutes before you and the officer can pull away to chat as it can get very busy at the front desk. If you aren’t comfortable in coming in feel free to give us a call at 250 475 4321 and ask to speak with the front desk officer.

    Depending on the details you provide any number of things may happen. You and the officer may simply discuss the matter and even if there is little for us, the police, to act on I would hope that after this conversation you would feel a little more at peace with your concerns having been given some professional feedback on the issue. We may start a private police report to have the matter documented for information only in order to record your concerns and to ensure that any potential responding officers in the future be familiar with the situation. Again, depending on the details you provide and your wishes we may enter into an active investigation into the activities of your neighbours which could lead to any number of actions on our part.

    I hope you pop in or give us a call and I hope this will be of some help to you. Thanks for writing in.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  220. 1769
    tracey, saanich

    i would like to know what happens if you donot pay a court ordered fine and if you do not let the court know that you have moved.. as this is my boyfriends situation i keep telling him to pay but hes under the impression nothing will happen also how would I find out if he has a warrent for his arrest

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tracey, thanks for writing in.

    I can only give you a general answer as I do not know which court (Family, Traffic, Criminal) ordered the fine or whether your boyfriend was actually bound by a court or police ordered condition to give notice of any move. If this is one of his conditions, then he could potentially be charged with Breach Of Recognizance or Undertaking.

    Many unpaid court ordered fines can result in a warrant being issued for your boyfriends arrest and or wages being garnished. If it is a traffic court fine then your boyfriend would not be able to renew the registration on his vehicle or renew his driving licence until the debt is paid. If a condition exists that he is to give notice of any move then this fine is more likely stemming from Family or Criminal Court. Regardless of which court issued the fine you can call the Court Registry at 250 356 1478 for more details. In addition, at the Court Registry, 850 Burdett Av, there is a public access terminal where you can query as to whether there are any charges/warrants in existence in your boyfriends name. 

    I know it is easy for me to say (sitting here in my office and not knowing you or your boyfriend), but it is definitely in your boyfriends best interest to comply with any demands made on him by the Courts or to follow the proper steps in appealing that decision. The fines and/or possible warrants that come as a result won’t simply fade away.

    Hope this helps. Take care.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  221. 1768
    Roger

    Hello there, just wanted to drop a line in your comment section. Lately (with the kicking incident) Police in general have recieved some additional heat from the public, so I thought I would send in my recent experience. On Friday night (Saturday morning) my son was involved in a fairly serious motor vehicle accident that resulted in a trip to the hospital. The Police officer I dealt with (Cst Mayers) was very nice and genuinely concerned about my son. It reminded me that any organization can have a rotten apple. Thanks Cst Mayers and be safe.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Roger, thanks for taking the time to submit your comment.

    Your kind words are very much appreciated. I will be sure to make Cst. Myers aware of your post. He will be happy to hear from you.

    I hope your family is well and I wish your son a full and speedy recovery.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  222. 1767
    Richard, Saanich

    Hi, where can I find statistics on IRSU? In particular I’m interested to see what the ratio of tickets written for speeding compared to other traffic offenses such as impeding the flow of traffic (left lane hoggers) tailgating, passing on the right etc.

    If there is no data for IRSU then perhaps is there data for Saanich?

    Saanich Police Repsonse:

    Hi Richard, thanks for writing in.

    In regards to any IRSU stats I would suggest giving them a call directly at 250 380 6206. As for any Saanich stats I suggest you speak with Cst. Petra Dornblut, in our Crime Prevention/Community Liaison office, at 250 475 4346 or via email at PDORNBLUT@Saanichpolice.ca. I’m not sure exactly what Petra can provide but she will be able to tell you better than I what is available. Unfortunately, Petra will not be back to the office until Tuesday, April 13th. In the meanwhile, feel free to leave her a message with your request so that it will be there waiting for her when she returns.

    Hope that is of some help and thanks for your patience. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  223. 1766
    Mike, Saanich

    Hello,

    I was driving north on Burnside near Harriet and observed a car driving erratically. It was drifting to the right toward a parked car on the side of the road and then veered left to avoid hitting it. They were going over the line a bit. I saw that it was an elderly woman so I’m not sure if she was under the influence of something or she is just getting to old to drive well. It happened last week, I forget what day but I got the license, **removed by site administrator**. I think it’s time her license is reviewed to see how fit she is to drive.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mike,

    Thanks for taking the time to make us aware of your concern. However, this Comments and Questions page is not set up as a report taking system. For us to follow up with this driver we would need from you a statement describing the incident (along the lines of your comment) as well as your contact information (which we don’t have through the website) for the investigator should he or she need it.

    You are are welcome to make such a report either by attending the front desk of our department located at 760 Vernon Av, by phone at 250 475 4321, or by email at traffic@saanichpolice.ca. Once the file is generated, an officer will be assigned to look into the matter.

    I have recorded the lady’s licence plate number so feel free to contact myself if you no longer have it for when and if you make that report.

    Thanks again Mike, and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  224. 1765
    Jarvis

    Hello,

    I am wondering why multiple police car sirens were ongoing for about 15 minutes early this morning (April 2), while the cars were actually stopped. This was in the Lakehill area.

    Thanks

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jarvis, thanks for visiting our website.

    To answer your question please see posting #1763. Rae wrote in with the same concerns, and I’m sure these concerns are shared by many residents of the Lakehill and Quadra neighbourhoods.

    Hope the link to the appropriate media releases will be of some help. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  225. 1764
    Rae, Saanich

    Hello there,
    I was awaken by sirens near my house around 12am April 2nd. I looked out my window and saw a few police cars and searchlights. Looks like they were in Beckwith Park. The sirens went on for about 45 minutes and there was a police officer on Beckwith ave stopping cars as they passed… Can you tell me what happened? It has me quite concerned.
    Thank you, and keep up the good work with keeping our community safe :)

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Rae. Thanks for writing in.

    All the activity came as a result of patrol members spotting a suspicious male in the area that may be related to the “peeping Tom” incidents that have been reported on several occasions in the Lakehill and Quadra neighbourhoods. Click on the link to Media Releases to read about this ongoing concern. As I type this response, Sgt. Price is preparing another media release regarding this latest incident so please stay tuned to the Media page on our website for further details.

    I would encourage all of our readers to have a read of these releases as they provide details regarding this suspect, his behaviour and cautionary steps that can be taken for your safety and to protect your privacy.

    Thanks again, Rae, for visiting our website and for your kind words.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  226. 1763
    nancy

    please answer my question of last night….i was being serious and not trying to “prank”.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Nancy,

    Thank you for your patience on this. I did not post your previous question due to the sensitivity of its content. However, I do want to answer your questions and discuss this matter further. Unfortunately, this forum is not the place to have such a discussion.

    I would very much like to get in touch with you. I can be reached at KDCDUKESHIRE@Saanichpolice.ca or you can call myself on my direct line at 250 475 4324. We can then talk about your concerns in more detail.

    Thank you, Nancy. I hope this finds you well and I hope to hear from you soon.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  227. 1762
    Lilly, Victoria

    Hi there! A little while ago I had my purse stolen with lots of my belongings in it. About 2 weeks later the police found some of my belongings and said that I could pick it up from the station if I wanted to. However, I never got around to it and now I am wanting to pick this stuff up. The thing is this incident was about 2 years ago. Is there any chance that they would still have my things at the station? and what would I need to do to get these things back? Thank you for your help :)

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Lilly, thanks for writing in.

    You need to contact Margaret Greenway in Property Control at 250 475 4331. Anything recovered or seized goes to Property Control and is managed by Margaret. Her hours are Monday to Friday, 830-1130, 1230-1530. Unfortunately, with Easter weekend upon us, you will have to wait until Tuesday to speak with Margaret. But what’s a few more days after two years? :)

    I don’t want to get your hopes up, Lilly. The items may have been disposed of by now but there can be circumstances when we hang on to property for an extended period of time so make sure you touch base with Margaret.

    My fingers are crossed for you! Have a great weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

     

  228. 1761
    Jason

    Is it just me, or does it seem that running lights is becoming almost an epidemic in both Saanich and Victoria these days? I find that at nearly every intersection I come to, you will get one or two drivers pushing the limits of the yellow. You also see many people driving through after the light has changed to red.

    I’m not sure what the solution is, but it seems to be getting worse and worse. I’m amazed there aren’t more accidents than there already are. You could dedicate an entire task force to it, and be overworked.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jason, hope you are well.

    No, unfortunately it is not just you. I agree, it is way too common an occurrence. I have provided a link to Section 128 of the BC Motor Vehicle Act which lays out the law regarding yellow lights. I encourage anyone who might need a reminder of its content to have a read. To summarize the key point in the section, a driver, once the yellow light comes on, must stop the vehicle (unless it is not safe to do so) before entering the crosswalk or intersection.

    Safe driving and happy Easter!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  229. 1760
    Enid, Saanich

    Do you have to keep your vehicle registration in the glove compartment? I’ve always kept my insurance papers for autoplan in the car, but I was told this isn’t a good idea because someone can find out where you live if they broke into your car.
    Could you keep a photocopy of your autoplan with your address blanked out? Would that be acceptable?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Enid, thanks for visiting our website.

    No, you don’t have to keep your registration papers in the glove box. You do have to have them with you when you are operating the vehicle. A copy is fine, but the address can’t be blanked out. If you choose to leave the papers in your car when you are away from the vehicle it is a good practice to keep them somewhere inconspicuous. You can also choose to take them with you every time you leave the car but you are running the risk of forgetting them the next time you drive or not having the papers with the vehicle when someone else is driving.

    Hope that helps, Enid. Happy Easter!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  230. 1759
    mark saanich

    today felt much safer bicycling down burnside.for a bit anyway.most of the time it feels like the auto-bon in germany,but i dont see any signs saying it is.thank you for helping out!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mark, thanks for writing in.

    I’m happy to hear that. I hope everyone continues to be respectful and share the road, regardless of how many wheels one rides on.

    Happy Easter, Mark. Enjoy the weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  231. 1758
    Andrée, Calgary

    Hello,

    My husband is a Police Constable in Alberta and collects police patches, pins, etc. I am trying to get some patches for him as a gift and to support his hobby. It would be great to get items from your department to add to his collection. I know he would really appreciate it. Is this possible?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Andrée, thanks for visiting our website.

    It will be our pleasure to mail off a patch and a pin to you for your husband. I am about to send you an email. At your convenience, please respond with your mailing address and we will send that package out as soon as we can.

    Hope this finds you well and happy Easter!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire


     

  232. 1757
    dave, saanich

    I am very concerned about speeders going between Cloverdale Ave. and Quadra St. on Inverness. There is a park, Rutledge, and the speed limit is 30/km but many people are doing way past the speed limit. I witnessed someone today @ about 5 P.M. doing about 70/km an hour in this zone. It would be prudent to set up radar soon between 4-6. Just a concerned citizen w/ no children.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Dave, thanks for writing in.

    I will pass on your post to our Traffic Safety Section so that they are aware of your observations. As well, if you are ever able to record a licence plate of an offending vehicle we encourage you to report the incident to us either over the phone (250 475 4321), in person at our front desk (760 Vernon Av), or by email at traffic@saanichpolice.ca. We would require a statement from you detailing what you saw in order for us to follow up with the driver.

    Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with us. Enjoy the long weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  233. 1756
    ellis , england

    hello sir,i am a 54yr old disabled man from england.i collect everything i can about law enforcement and public safety.can i ask,would it be possible to get some saanich items to add to my collection.i would dearly love a patch and badge to frame;
    i hold everyone in public safety in the highest esteem,
    ellis

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ellis.

    It’s a pleasure hearing from you and thank you for your interest in our department. We will be happy to mail off to you some Saanich Police memorabilia. Unfortunately we don’t have any badges that we give out to the public but we can send you a couple of patches along with a pin and Saanich Police Calendar, if that is of any interest to you.

    I have just sent you an email. At your convenience, please respond with a mailing address and we will be sure to get that package off to you.

    Hope this finds you well and thanks for visiting our website!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  234. 1755
    Kristy, Saanich

    Hi,

    In light of the negative media on the local police, I wanted to write encouragement to all our local police.
    I realize your job is often thankless. I want you to know that I think the police are doing a good job for the resources they have.
    I appreciate that if I get assaulted, stolen from, in an accident or we experience an emergency, that our society has people who will come and help us.

    Keep up the good work.

    Richard & Kristy **removed by site administrator**

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Richard and Kristy,

    Thank you so much for taking the time to voice your support and appreciation. I know from personal experience how far an unsolicited kind word from a member or members of the community can go and how helpful it can be for an officer, especially if that officer happens to be experiencing a difficult day or time.

    I hope you are enjoying your day and know that your kind words are a benefit to all of us on the job.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  235. 1754
    Pete, Saanich

    Hi

    I’m growing concerned about the lack of policing of the Gyro Park/Cadboro Bay area. It’s not that we never see the police, but their cars are generally parked outside the Starbucks as they catch up on their (doubtless) piles of paperwork. However if they would look up once in a while they might see the swarms of youth, open beers in hand heading down to the beach. I understand that in the past getting busted by the cops at Caddy Bay was a right of passage for young Saanichites. It seem these kids are missing that experience.

    The swath of damage is visible for blocks around and even into Oak Bay thru the Uplands. The final straw for me was the vandalism of the children’s playground last weekend. I spent a fair amount of time on Saturday morning removing the logs jammed thru the swings and picking up the broken glass laying at the bottom of the slide.
    On the beach a transient slept in a log shelter with a smouldering fire close at hand. Elsewhere on the beach there were piles of garbage and empty beer cans strewn around.
    This isn’t a one off –it’s been going on for the last 5-6 weeks and as the weather warms it’s getting MUCH worse.

    Some suggestions:
    1. While the officers catch up on their computer/paperwork why not have them park outside the liquor store and down in the parking lot of Gyro Park.

    2. More active patrols of the beach area are needed –kids got to blow off steam somewhere but this is really getting out of hand.

    3. Ensure that the liquor store is carding vigorously –I saw a group of obviously underage teenage boys on bikes come out of the store with their cold ones clutched under their arms last Saturday night. Another group hung out beside Peppers as a stranger did a “run” for them.

    Many thanks for reading this email.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Pete, thanks for writing in.

    I will be sure to pass your post through “Muster”, which is a pre-shift briefing that all patrol members sit in on prior to heading out on their patrol shifts. In Muster the Watch Commander briefs staff on current concerns and items that officers should be aware of while performing their duties. As well, I am providing you with a link to the Liquor Control and Licensing Branch to assist you in getting in touch with them so that you can voice your concerns regarding underage sales. We will be sure to “look up” :)  and watch for that when we are in the area, but I am sure the LCLB would also appreciate hearing from you if you are aware of ongoing infractions of the Liquor Control and Licencing Act.

    Don’t ever to hesitate to call us when you see vandalism, or any offence for that matter, taking place, either as it happens or after the fact. We will attend and if nothing else, the event will be documented. It is these kind of statistics that aid us in best directing our resources. We do our best to patrol all of Saanich, to be as proactive as possible and to be as informed as we can be on what’s happening in our neighbourhoods.

    Thanks, Pete, for your active interests in your community and for taking the time to touch base with us on the concerns that you have. Hope you enjoy the rest of your day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire 

  236. 1753
    James, Saanich

    A young lady named Brittney came to our door with the survey about air quality sponsored by Advanced Air Supply of Victoriat. This visit was followed up several weeks later by a call to say that while we were entered in the main draw we had won the daily draw to win a hotel voucher or a car cleaning kit.

    They booked an appointment and their representative (Todd) was almost 2 hours late to deliver the prize and give us a “brief” introduction to their product.

    Had we researched the company earlier or read earlier comments posted here and from other sites or had we known it was to be a demo of Filter Queen vacuum products I would never have agreed to the “brief introduction”.

    While Todd was pleasant enough I did not get a comfortable feeling from him and found myself having to work at getting him out of my house while feeling all the time that my home was being cased. The only consolation is that the daily prize, the car cleaning kit, should sell for about $1 at a garage sale.

    Lessons learned – too late!

    I know that Advanced Air Supply is operating within the law, however, if others receive the survey or the call and read this they may benefit by not having to sit through a demonstration for a vacuum system that if I purchased it “then and their” would be at a special deal of $2,995

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi James.

    Thanks for visiting our website and for taking the time to voice your concerns, as many have before you, regarding this particular business.

    Hope you enjoy your evening.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  237. 1752
    Tom, SW Saanich

    Have there really been no news releases since March 18th as indicated on your

    “Media” page on this site or is there some kind of glitch?

    Thank you,

    -Tom

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tom, hope you are well.

    Public Information Officer Julie Fast has been away from the office and as a result there have been fewer media releases posted on the website. During this time, we have still been in contact with the local media and have continued to update the local media on any stories that we felt the public should be made aware of. Sgt. John Price has been recently assigned to take over for Julie during her absence and is already busy getting the website caught up in regards to media releases. 

    Thank you for your patience and thanks for visiting our website!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  238. 1751
    Robert W. M'cCoy, in Korea

    Is it possible to get a Crimininal Background Check when you are outside Canada? The RCMP method takes 120 days! So, since I lived in Saanich for many years, I thought maybe if the Canadian consulate notarized my request, I could get it done through you. Then, when I received it, I could get it notarized again.

    I know there are privacy issues involved, but this is getting like a modern day nightmare.

    Unfortunately, third party services are unacceptable by some governments.

    If worse comes to worse, I can come and visit home, but the airfare is a consideration.

    I did try phoning, but haven’t got through so far.

    Take care.
    Rob M’cCoy

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Rob, thanks for visiting our website.

    Yes, it is possible to have a criminal record check completed if you were a Saanich resident but are currently living abroad. To do so, I am going to put you in touch with Cst.’s Berle Zwaan and Tanya Campbell, the two officers responsible for completing criminal record checks for Saanich Police.

    You can reach them on their direct line at 250 475 4352 or by email at admindesk@saanichpolice.ca. I am going to forward your email on to Berle and Tanya as a heads-up but it’s probably not a bad idea for you to drop them a line directly as well.

    Hope that helps and I hope you are enjoying your time in Korea!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  239. 1750
    Ken

    My job requires me to drive an average of 1500 km each week, the majority being on the Pat Bay Highway. I must say that I am appalled at the fact that just about every time I pass through a speed trap, the motorist behind me is usually tailgating, yet the officers who observe this do nothing about it. I believe it’s time for an anti-tailgating campaign on the Pat Bay Highway.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ken, thanks for writing in.

    I can appreciate your concern about tail-gaters. There are still many drivers out there who do not recognize or respect how dangerous this practice can be. I am sorry that you have experienced times where we have failed to observe or act on this driving offence.

    The next time this happens, if possible and when safe to do so, I would encourage you to pull into another lane for two reasons;

    1) to remove yourself from the dangerous situation that this other driver is putting you in and,

    2) to be able to observe and record the licence plate of the offending vehicle so that we can follow-up with the driver.

    To report such incidents that occur in Saanich you can either call us on our non-emergency line at 250 475 4321, dial 911 (depending on the severity and urgency of the circumstance), attend our front desk at 760 Vernon Av, or email our Traffic Safety Section at traffic@saanichpolice.ca.

    Lastly, I will forward your comment on to our Traffic Safety Section so that they are aware of your concerns.

    Thanks for your comment, Ken, and continue to drive safely.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  240. 1749
    Mike, Saanich

    Hello,

    If someone who’s never had a license is caught driving a car does the car get impounded or can someone with a license drive it home?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mike, thanks for writing in.

    The vehicle would not necessarily be towed and/or impounded. It would depend on where the vehicle is parked, whether a licenced driver was available to attend, and if there were any directions in place from the Office of the Superintendant of Motor Vehicles (OSMV) related to the offender. Circumstances often vary and the attending officer needs to ensure that steps are taken to prevent any possible continuation of the offence. If this offender has a history of related driving offences he or she could be classed by the OSMV as a Vehicle Impound Candidate in which case the car would be automatically impounded regardless of any of the previously mentioned considerations.

    The offender would be issued a violation ticket for “No Driver’s Licence” which would be forwarded to ICBC and the OSMV. If the individual wasn’t already a Vehicle Impound Candidate at the time of this incident, this ticket could very well lead to him or her becoming one.

    Hope that answers your question, Mike, and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  241. 1748
    Tyler, Saanich

    Hi,

    What are the shift hours the Saanich police work?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tyler, thanks for your interest.

    Our shifts vary quite a bit depending on what section we are currently assigned to. The most common shift is that of the patrol officers who are a part of the Uniform Division, the largest division within the department. Patrol members, the officers that you most commonly see on the streets in uniform and in marked police cars, work a four day on/four day off rotating shift. They start with two consecutive 12 hour day shifts, starting at 7:00 am, followed by two consecutive 12 hour night shifts, starting at 7:00 pm. So for example, an officer works Monday, Tuesday dayshifts, then Wednesday, Thursday nightshifts. After the officer completes that four day cycle, the officer is then off for four days. There are four patrol platoons working this schedule and together they provide patrol presence to Saanich, 24/7.

    All Saanich police officers start their career off in the Uniform Division, assigned to one of these platoons. After approximately 3-5 years of patrol service and having gained that valuable patrol experience, officers can then branch off to other specialty sections such as Detectives, Youth Section, Family Protection Unit, Traffic Safety, School Liaison, Streetcrime, Forensic Identification just to name a few where the shifts and their hours begin to vary depending on the section.

    Hope that helps, Tyler. Have a great weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  242. 1747
    Irene, Saanich

    Hello Saanich PD,

    First of all, thank you for this blog - it is a great channel of communication. I would like to ask who is in charge of regulating traffic lights on McKenzie Avenue (at Quadra and Borden). They are in bad need of analysis and change of timing. It can take up to 15 minutes (and numerous light cycles) to get through the Quadra/McKenzie intersection when driving on McKenzie, while all the cross streets free up at a single light. Not only this is a huge waste of time for hundreds of drivers using that route, but it is causing significant unnecessary pollution in that area.

    Thank you for listening.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Irene, thanks for writing in and thank you for your feedback on this site.

    Engineering Services is responsible for Municipal infastructure, including roads, water, sewers, drains, street and traffic lights. Follow the link to their contact info. They will be able to guide you from there as to how to voice your concerns about that particular intersection and they will be able to tell you whether or not there are any plans in motion addressing the issue. 

    Hope that helps. Enjoy your evening!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  243. 1746
    Jimmy, Saanich

    I ride a motorcycle almost daily and I have a safety question to ask you. Occasionally I find myself riding behind a car whose driver decides to use the windshield washer. From my experience, washer jets do not seem to be aimed very well and they shoot the fluid above the roof of the car which hits me in the face. Not only is it aggravating to get hit with the fluid but the temporary loss of vision is dangerous. Are there any laws preventing a driver from doing this? Can a driver be charged with negligence? I am sure most drivers aren’t aware of the problem, would education help the issue?

    Thanks,
    Jimmy

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jimmy, thanks for writing in.

    As a motorcycle rider myself, I can relate to your experiences. I have spoken with several traffic safety officers about your question and I have thoroughly explored both the BCMVA and MVA Regulations and have been unable to find a section that pertains to your concern. I have spoken with the Motor Vehicle Inspections/Compliance Section of ICBC who confirmed the same.

    Some sprayback may be unavoidable depending on the speed of the vehicles, the vehicle shape, and your proximity but if it ever happens to you again to the point where the sprayback is excessive and dangerous feel free to report the licence plate to us and we can at least get in touch with the registered owner of the vehicle so that he or she knows it is a problem. We may be able to issue a “Notice and Order” to have the fluid jets inspected to ensure they are aimed where they should be.

    As for the “education” component of your question, hopefully by reading our discussion here folks will respect your concern and ensure that their washer jets are working and aimed properly. And of course, we riders will make sure we are maintaining a safe distance so that 1) we can react in time to whatever is in front of us and 2) we can hopefully avoid a windshield-washer shower.

    Thanks Jimmy, and happy riding!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  244. 1745
    Tristan, Seattle

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnwi6wO03As

    The constable in this video appears to be behaving irrationally. I need to know I can rely on the police for appropriate and rational behavior. If I don’t believe that, it seriously impairs my ability to trust the police.

    If the public does’t trust the police, that makes it hard for you to do your job.

    This video has made the front page of reddit.com. Some sort of response, context at the very least, would be helpful.

    I grew up in Victoria. My family, and my wife’s, are still there.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tristan, thanks for visiting our website.

    This incident involves members of the Victoria Police Department, not Saanich, so I have provided you with a link to the Victoria Police Department website where on their media release page there are a couple of postings referring to this incident. One of the releases gives notice of a news conference regarding this incident scheduled for 1300 hours today, to be held by Victoria Police Chief Jamie Graham. From reading their website, it appears the matter is being investigated by the Victoria Police Professional Standards Section. Such an investigation would be monitored by the Office of the Police Complaint Commissioner.

    You are absolutely right, Tristan. In order to maintain a healthy relationship between the police and the public it is essential that a strong sense of trust exists. All bias aside, or at least put aside to the best of my ability, I continue to believe that such a level of trust still exists here between the majority of the local public and the departments policing here in Greater Victoria.

    Thanks for writing in Tristan and I hope the links provided will help your efforts in being as informed on this incident as possible.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  245. 1744
    Michael - Saanich

    Mountain Equip Coop (MEC) is promoting a bicycle registry where owners can register their bikes so that if they are stolen and later recovered, police forces have a single place to search for the rightful owner of the bike.

    Q1. Does Saanich PD use the services of bikeregistrycanada.com?

    Anything you guys ca do to catch motorists passing cyclists dangerously with inches to spare would be appreciated.

    Cheers

    Michael

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Michael, thanks for writing in.

    Any bikes reported as stolen to the police are placed on a national police database called C.P.I.C. (Canadian Police Information Centre). The bikes are recorded on CPIC by the serial number so it is important for bike owners out there to know the serial number of their bike for easier identification if the bike is recovered. As I said, this is a national database so officers from coast to coast can access this information. Stolen vehicle and bicycle information can be accessed by the public as well on the CPIC website.

    Any recovered stolen bikes that end up in the hands of Saanich Police are managed primarily by Margaret Greenway, in Property Control. I’m not sure if Margaret uses “bikeregistry.com” in addition to our local police records and CPIC to assist her in her duties. Unfortunately she is not in today but feel free to give her a call at 250 475 4331, leave her a message, and when she is back she will be sure to answer any further questions you may have.

    And lastly, in regards to your concerns about vehicles passing cyclists in a dangerous manner, I would encourage you to report the circumstances of such incidents to the police. We would need the licence plate number of the offending vehicle and a written statement from you describing the incident in order for a traffic member to follow up with the driver of the vehicle. You can report the incident either by phone at 250 475 4321, in person at our front desk (760 Vernon Av), or via email at traffic@saanichpolice.ca.

    Hope that helps, Michael, and safe riding!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  246. 1743
    Ellis Victoria

    What is your advice for Senior who are victims of a ‘home invasion’? ie the steps to take.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ellis,

    The very first step is to report the incident to the police responsible for the area where the offence took place. This can be done in person by attending our front desk at 760 Vernon Av. or by calling us at 250 475 4321 (if the crime took place in Saanich). If the victim is unable or uncomfortable in doing this then a family member or friend can contact us on the victim’s behalf. An officer would then return to the station or attend the senior’s home to take the report. The police would then be able to provide follow-up support by getting the individual in touch with various community support groups, ie Saanich Police counsellor, Victim Services, various elder care and interest organizations.

    The sooner that the victim has access to support and guidance the better. Such an incident can be very traumatic and we are here to help, not just in the investigation of the offence, but in helping the victim along the path of recovery.

    Hope this is of some assistance. Hope to hear from you soon.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  247. 1742
    Ken, Colwood

    Just a follow up to my post #1729. I have not received any additional calls from AAS since the one I related in my post. Perhaps what folks need to do is be “ignorant” and very firm with these people if they receive repeated telephone calls.

    My response to these guys was (to put it gently) pointed and direct. Asking them to not call again may not be strong enough. Telling them in direct language that their solicitations are unwelcome might be sufficient to disuade them. Certainly a call to the BBB as well should do the trick. One would think that numerous complaints to the BBB as well as calls from police would get the message across to them.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ken. I am happy to hear that you are being left in peace. I hope all the people who have experienced similar difficulties are as well.

    Thanks for writing in and I hope you are enjoying your day.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  248. 1741
    Sam

    If a retail store specializing in the sale of new and used products purchases a used product from a walk-in customer and later determines that product to be stolen, what repercussions are there for the store or its employees?

    If the store is able to locate the rightful owner of the product, can the store return the product to the owner without repercussion?

    Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sam, hope you are well.

    There could be repercussions if the store, after having determined an item was stolen, did nothing to notify the police and or the rightful owner and knowingly kept or sold the item. If the store purchased the item in good faith and in good practice and notified the police and or the rightful owner as soon as it was determined that the item was stolen then there would be no criminal repercussions for that store or its staff. 

    The reason I would encourage the store to contact the police, and not just the owner, is so that the police have an opportunity to investigate the matter and hopefully identify the individual(s) responsible for the theft.

    Thanks for writing in, Sam. Hope you are enjoying your day.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  249. 1740
    Travis, saanich

    Who do I talk to if a neighbor is parking their tent-trailer, uninsured on the street and within 5 meters of a fire hydrant?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Travis, thanks for writing in.

    You can call Barry Popejoy (parking enforcement for Saanich) either on his direct line at 250 475 4264 or for perhaps a speedier response (if Barry is out on the road or on holidays) on our non-emergency line at 250 475 4321. If you call the non-emergency line then a call taker will create a report with you over the phone and then dispatch it either to Barry or to a patrol member.

    Hope that helps. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  250. 1739
    Anne, View Royal

    I am a person with disabilities. About two years ago I was trying to get a job to re-enter the work force. I needed a criminal record check to apply for the position. I had no money, I was so discouraged I could not get the simple documents required for lack of money. The PWD office had red taped me out of the $20 I needed for a TB test, and would not even consider paying the fee for the criminal record check.

    In desperation I came to the Saanich detachment to see if you could make a payment arrangement with me so I could get my criminal check and start this part time position. I wish I got the name of the officer who attended to me. When I explained my predicament he said he would run my application and would try to work out a way to help me before I came to pick it up. When I came to pick it up my criminal check was handed to me, I was told Merry Christmas and sent on my way without a request for payment.

    Thank you. I got the job. I am now looking at starting my own business only because your department stepped up to help when no one else would give me a hand up. I never thought I could start my own business. If your officer hadn’t helped I would not be able to do this. I think the Saanich police are not afraid to help fill the gaps that exist for people like me fighting so many odds.

    This is not the only help I have received from your department. My son suffers from mental illness and addiction and I have required police support more than once in Saanich to make him safe and get him to medical help. He was not requiring first aid and too combative to go in the ambulance, your officers made him feel safe enough to go with them and get the medical attention he needed. Thank you. In a world than can be harsh to people like my son, he always felt your officers actually cared about him. He is in recovery now. Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Anne.

    Thank you so much for your kind words. Reading your comment was a very pleasant start to my day. And you are very welcome for any assistance that we, as a department, have been able to offer you and your son.

    I wish much success to you in your business endeavours and to your son as he overcomes these obstacles. Have a wonderful weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  251. 1738
    Ramona, Saanich

    I, like another writer, had a person show up at my door. Asked a couple questions about the Air Quality. I was entered into a draw for $500.00 and gave me a card…”sponsored by Advanced Air Supply INC”. I had a call from ” Word of Mouth Advertising” and stated my name was pulled for a daily draw. I had a pick of two items in exchange of a quick presentation of a air purifier…purpose was for word of mouth and that I didn’t have to purchase. I figured what the heck. A man ( wouldn’t call him a gentle man ) showed up on the scheduled day. He stated wouldn’t take long. He went through that Air purifier…then brought out a Vacuum cleaner. It was “Filter Queen”. I told him I wasn’t going to purchase it…he continues. Calling his “Superviser” telling of my so called interest. THen came the sales pitch. I told him not going to buy…pressure kept on. I asked him to leave. At first he wanted to resolve the issue….no issue. I told him he had to leave in 5 minutes or I will get my husband and then call the police. He called his supervisor again that I was upset all of a sudden and he didn’t know why…..because he wouldn’t leave. I talked to the man…he still tried to sell his system. With much pressure from my husband he eventually left….without my very much deserved free gift. I tell you I almost call the Police to because he almost refused to leave my home. Pass on the warning and my complaint to whoever you can regarding …Word of Mouth Advertising, Advanced Air Supply INC, and Filter Queen.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Ramona.

    We have received quite a few comments concerning Advanced Air Supply (see posts 1169, 1188, 1200, 1729, 1732). Although I sympathize with everyone who has experienced difficulties with this business I want to be careful about using this Comments & Questions page on the Saanich Police website as a “community bulletin board” for civil matters. Again, we advise that complaints are best directed to the Better Business Bureau.

    Thanks for writing in, Ramona. I do appreciate your effort in passing on your experiences to the community. Have a great, “pushy-salesman-free” weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  252. 1737
    quinn, edmonton

    are the city police still using radios that don’t work?there was no reason in the first place that they should and i hope things have been straightened out in that department,as people rely on them.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Quinn. Thanks for visiting our website.

    The CREST radio system is still the radio system utilized by emergency services throughout the Capital Region District here in Victoria. I have provided a link to the latest article on the topic in the Times Colonist, one of our local newspapers, for your review. On that page there are also additional links regarding CREST and their involvement with the local municipalities, see “More On This Story”.

    Unfortunately this is still an unresolved issue. And you are absolutely correct, the need for a functioning, reliable communication network is of the upmost importance for the security and welfare of firefighters, paramedics, police officers and the public we all serve.

    Thanks for writing in, Quinn, and I hope all is well in Edmonton.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  253. 1736
    Sam

    Thank you for your response regarding random breath checks.

    Since driving is in fact a privilege, I would hope that the random breath checks be applied evenly across all drivers including on-duty transit operators, taxi drivers, fire and ambulance drivers and on-duty police officers.

    If the police will be granted the power to stop anyone at any time and demand a breath sample, I would hope that the police will be stopping other on-duty police officers and conducting breath checks as a demonstration to the driving public that this is not in any way a means to invade the right to privacy and the right to conduct ones self in a reasonable manner without constantly being under police suspicion.

    A Toronto bus driver recently had her driver’s licence suspended after being found intoxicated on the job. Please be sure to pull over busses at random (I don’t care if they are on a schedule, I am too) and require the driver to blow into a screening device. It’s the only way to ensure a fair application of this power.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sam,

    You are right, all the drivers you mentioned are as subject to the rules of the road and the legislation governing them as anyone else.

    As I mentioned in our previous discussion, the police authority to stop any vehicle would not be new. There is no change there. Nor is the stopping of any of these vehicles an invasion of privacy. The only change would be that the breath demand could be given without an officer’s suspicion of the presence of alcohol in the driver’s system as is currently required. The authority for that officer to have that bus, ambulance, police car or civilian vehicle pulled over is already there. Since the authority for these traffic stops is already in place and such traffic stops have been taking place for years I doubt the number of traffic stops would increase as a result of this legislation, only the number of breath demands made during these stops would rise.

    Thanks again for your comments, Sam. The concerns and points you bring to the table are hopefully being considered by the ”law makers” as they review the possibility of this legislation.

    Enjoy your evening!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  254. 1735
    Karen, Saanich

    I am the owner of several apartments on Vancouver Island. While I try to be careful about my tenants, I’m always concerned about possible drug use in my suites, so I like to be proactive about these things. A friend mentioned that there are some apartments in Vancouver that, on a regular basis, employ sniffer dogs to detect drug use in some high rise buildings. Apparently the dogs are brought into the hallways and, if the dogs smell something, then it is a wake-up call to the landlord to enter the suite. What do you think of this idea? Would dogs be able to sniff out drug use (or grow ops) from the hallways of buildings? How reliable would such a service be, in your opinion? I see several firms advertising on the internet, offering such a service.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Karen,

    That’s the first I have heard of such a service but, yes, depending on the ability and training of the dog, the amount and nature of the drugs in the suite, the layout of the suite and any precautions the tenants may have taken to mask any odour, a dog would most likely be able to detect the presence of a drug. I guess it would boil down to what agreements are in place between yourself and the tenants in regards to when and under what circumstances you can enter a suite. That would be outside of the police realm, of course, so I have attached a link to the Residential Tenancy Branch website for your convenience. They would be able to tell you what your rights as a landlord would be. If we, the police found ourselves in the hallways of one of your apartments on an unrelated matter and smelled marijuana we would not have the authority to enter the “suspect” suite without a warrant.

    I think it’s best you speak with the Tenancy Branch as I’m sure they have answered similar questions in the past and are most likely aware of the civil legality of such a service and how it relates to the rights of both the tenant and the landlord. As well there would be no harm in contacting one of these dog services directly to ask the same question. And lastly, on the “dog side” of things, feel free to contact Sgt. Glen MacKenzie who heads our Canine Unit at 250 475 4321 ext 1099. Glen has a wealth of experience in working with and training police dogs and would be a great resource for you.

    Hope this helps and thanks for writing in!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  255. 1734
    Sean, Saanich

    Recently in american news there has been lots of talk about pro gun lobbies fighting for more “open carry” acceptance of guns. In other words most places dont allow concealed weapons but showing your gun clearly and visibly is ok.

    Do canadian gun owners who have registered and legal weapons have right to open carry weapons?

    Can you walk in grocery store with handgun in visible holster? or walk down city streets with rifle slung over shoulder? Assuming it unarmed and ammo seperate i would imagine. Do people just not do this due to the fact that were not use to it and public would panic and be alarmed and police would likely respond every time you leave your house doing so.

    As i understand at recent g10 summit in canadian artic they were warning people not to be suprised seeing people walking down street with rifles or on there snowmobiles etc. So there it seems legal and commonplace. would love to hear whats legal and whats not and if you ever encounter people open carrying for non criminal purposes obviously.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning, Sean.

    No, in Canada one can not carry a firearm in public, concealed or visible, loaded or not. There are exceptions for the purposes of transportation, hunting, storing, displaying, occupation etc but even these exceptions are strictly regulated. Go to the Canadian Firearms Program website to read up on the firearms regulations in Canada.

    As for the article you read concerning the G10 Summit in the north, I am guessing that the sight of firearms may be more common in some of the more remote areas as hunting is such a key part of the culture and the hunting areas are closer to home. Both the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act govern firearms on a federal level however provinces, territories and municipalities may have additional laws and regulations. Provinces and territories are responsible for regulating hunting so it can vary from province to province, territory to territory. 

    Rarely do we encounter people carrying firearms in the public with no criminal intent. However “gun calls” that turn out to be very life-like replicas or pellet guns are common and such calls are handled, until deemed as otherwise, as if the gun is real. I want to remind any readers out there that have such replicas or pellet guns that it is illegal in Saanich to discharge them and to please be responsible when transporting them. 

    Thanks for writing, Sean. Hope you enjoy the sunshine.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  256. 1733
    Ernie, Saanich

    I like the placement of the radar speed trailer on Wilkinson Rd near Glyn Rd.
    However it is not displaying anything. Is the switch off or battery dead?
    I like to use these displays to check my speedometer.

    Thanks for checking.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ernie, thanks for letting us know about the speed trailer. I was advised that these speed-boards are set at certain speeds and will not display a speed until that speed is reached or surpassed. But to be sure it is working properly one of our Traffic Safety officers will swing by today and check.

    Thanks for writing in and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  257. 1732
    Rebecca, Langford

    On a previous post you replied to a concern regarding the business practices of “Advanced Air Supply Ltd”. While you note that they are not commiting an offence, they are constantly contacting our home phone number asking us to participate in a “survey”. When I spoke to the manager she provided me with enough details to indicate that this is their qualifying call for sales and that the free gift is part of the “process”. The challenge with their calls is that it comes from a different number each time - making it impossible to block the calls. The surveyor I spoke with indicated that she was calling from the Phillipines and that they are using VOIP. The manager that I spoke with directly linked these constant phone calls with Advance Air Supply in Esquimalt. Can something be done about the constant unwanted phone calls. This is the second time that I have requested that they not contact me again?
    Thanks,
    Rebecca

    Saanich Police Response

    Good morning LM, thank you for your email and take comfort in that you are not alone! We have received many complaints with regard to the business practises of Advanced Air Supply. I have personally spoken with the owner of the business, Mr. Jake Douglas, with regard to the manner in which they conduct business. I have also been in contact with the Better Business Bureau (BBB) about Advanced Air Supply.

    Advanced Air Supply is not committing a criminal code offence, they just elect to conduct themselves in a questionable manner. I recommend that you contact the BBB at 250-386-6348 and voice your concerns.

    Response by Cst. Paul Lamoureux

    Saanich Police Response (number two):

    Hi Rebecca,

    I am really sorry to hear that this is still going on. Paul’s previous answer still stands in that you should contact the Better Business Bureau so that these business practices are recorded with them. In addition to that, if you have done everything you can in dealing directly with AAP and have advised them to cease their calls and they continue to contact you at home against your wishes then the matter begins to approach harassment. Document every time they call and if the calls continue then you can report the matter to your local police department. It may not be in public interest to pursue harassment charges but perhaps a warning from the police, and a police report being filed, may be sufficient to resolve the issue.

    As far as I am concerned, if you lodged your complaint with a representative of the business here in Victoria, then it is that representative’s responsibility to ensure your wishes are met, regardless of where the phone calls are coming from.

    Hope this becomes a thing of the past in your near future!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  258. 1731
    Sam

    A comment about the proposed legislation to give police officers the right to conduct random alcohol breath tests with no probable cause.

    As a non-drinker (and therefore a non drink-driver) I am disgusted by this gross invasion of personal space. As someone who has never received a traffic ticket, been stopped or otherwise caused concern while driving I would be extremely humiliated if I was pulled out of my car and ordered to blow into a roadside screening device or face arrest.

    Let’s not forget the fact that the vast majority of alcohol-related collisions are caused by a driver with BAC readings well above the legal limit of .08.

    This legislation is intended to target drivers who have had so little to drink that they don’t even have the smell of alcohol on their breath. While I don’t condone any form of drunk driving, these drivers are not the cause of the majority of alcohol related collisions.

    This is an invasive law that humiliates law abiding drivers. No police department or officer that respects an individual’s personal freedom and space should support this legislation.

    Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sam, thanks for writing in. Hope you are well.

    I can understand your concerns about this proposed new legislation. New legislation, especially when it broadens police authority, can often be a slippery slope. One thing we do need to keep in mind, however, is that driving is a licenced act and a privilege, not a right. Case law stemming from Supreme Court decisions reinforces police authority to stop any vehicle to check for Motor Vehicle Act infractions, including sobriety of the driver. The fact that you have never been pulled over reflects that you are a safe and competent driver but it does not mean that the police did not have the authority to stop you, nor would it have been an invasion of your privacy had an officer pulled you over nor an attempt to humiliate you.

    I spoke with several experienced officers from our Traffic Safety Section regarding your comment, and although they agreed that the higher the BAC reading the higher the chances for a collision, they could not support that “the vast majority of alcohol-related collisions are caused by a driver with BAC readings well above the legal limit of .08″. Many people who drink regularly will not show signs of any impairment, which limits the police officers ability to form the suspicion needed to demand a breath sample, but nonetheless their ability to operate a motor vehicle is impaired and as a result pose a risk to themselves and others.

    It’s a difficult one, Sam. Speaking strictly for myself, I don’t view this possible legislation as an invasion. As a driver, I am subject to being pulled over to ensure I am sober among other things. I know that impaired drivers can slip through these stops undetected from time to time. If, as part of the this legal traffic stop, I am required to provide a breath sample to more accurately test my sobriety, then fine. If there is no alcohol in my system then I carry on with my day. If there is then I meet the consequences. Maybe I am too biased to comment but I don’t believe so.

    Thanks for your comment, Sam. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  259. 1730
    Christina, Saanich

    Hello, I live on Quadra street, and I normally feel very safe in my neighbourhood. However, recently a friend of mine told me that it was dangerous to walk down my street after dark. Should I be concerned? I was always under the impression that this is a generally safe area and that if I didn’t do anything to attract attention to myself, I probably wasn’t going to find trouble.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Christina.

    You are right, Quadra is generally a very safe area. However, any street, regardless of where, loses some of that security after dark. Your friend sounds like a good friend. I too am concerned when loved ones are alone on the streets late at night. For the most part, the streets are still safe at that time but the risk does increase.

    I have provided a link to a page on our website that shows crime statistics in different areas of Saanich. Most of these stats are showing property crime but it is still a good resource to see what is happening and where. As well, check out our media release page on the website where you will see postings of events or circumstances that we feel the public should be aware of.

    Keep enjoying your evening strolls, Christina, and if you can invite someone along then I would encourage you to do so. And if you do go out on your own, it’s a good idea to have a cell phone with you and to let someone know where and when you are going. Thanks for writing in.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  260. 1729
    Ken, Colwood

    I share the experiences of posters 1169, 1188 and 1200. A few weeks ago a young lady appeared at my door telling me she was doing a survey on local air quality. I agreed to answer her “three simple questions” and was informed that my name would be intered into a draw to win a $500 “cash shopping spree”. I didn’t give it much thought until I was contacted via phone the other night by a gentleman (he didn’t identify himself nor indicate he reprsented Advanced Air Supply) informing me that I had won a “special” price of a four night/three day vacation at any one of 80 resorts located all across North America. If I wasn’t interested in that, I had the option of accepting camping equipment.

    I was brought up believing there’s no such thing as a free lunch, told this guy I thought he was a scam artist and hung up. My call display identified the number as being AAS. Advanced Air Supply.

    I suppose that they are doing nothing “illegal” by the letter of the law, but certainly, in my opinion this is at best a shady business practice wherein the unsuspecting could well end up sucked into very expensive and unnecessary air purification systems for their homes.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Ken, thanks for writing in.

    Please have a read of Post #1731. In it is the phone number for the Better Business Bureau. As well, some direction to follow if, in the future, you begin to experience the same problems Rebecca has been experiencing with this business.

    Hope both yours and Rebecca’s wishes are respected. Thanks and have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  261. 1728
    Peter Victoria

    Hello,

    I have a quick qestion, I want to be a police officer when
    I’m older but I have 2 tattoos 1 on my back shoulder and 1 on my left calf(one is a shotglass with my name on it and the calf one is a football with the Canadian leaf) now will having these tattoos hurt my chances at becoming a police officer? Or will I have to get them removed to be a police officer? If you could get back to me that would be great thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Well, considering that the officer writing this response has a tattoo or two and is still gainfully employed I wouldn’t be too concerned, if I were you, about your tattoos negatively influencing the success of your application (more on the “shot glass” further on). We don’t have a policy in place that prevents applicants from having tattoos or from serving members getting tattoos. Many officers with Saanich have tattoos and many of those have had their work done after having been on the job for some time. In such cases, the individual officer keeps in mind his or her role as a police officer, the professional image that must be maintained, and the expectations of both the department and the public.

    The only time that tattoos would hurt your chances of becoming a police officer is if those tattoos are controversial or hateful in nature (ie racist) or if perhaps the individual was tattooed to such a degree that we would be concerned about that persons professional appearance when in uniform. In regards to the “shot glass” if, as part of the application process, we find that the tattoo has associations to a negative lifestyle then, of course, the Staff Development Section would keep this in mind when considering your application.

    Thanks for writing in, Peter, and I wish you success! 

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  262. 1727
    mk, saanich

    Hi there

    I realize you get paraise on this site and know you can’t comment on another case but I had someone throw an item at my car and damaged it and then assaulted me but i was not harmed. An officer went to the scene that was just down the road but didn’t give me his name and told me to go home. I reported it later that day and when I told the desk officer if they can use the communication logs from that night to find the officer I reported it to I was ignored and told my case wouldn’t proceed. How serious does a case have to be for the police to care? I mean really would if the object this peson threw hit me and I crashed, then would the police care? Just a suggestion

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi MK, thanks for writing in.

    I am sorry to hear that you have run into some difficulties dealing with this incident. From what you have described, I don’t understand why we would not be entering into an investigation. As you acknowledged, I am in the dark on the circumstances of your file as I have no way of looking it up without your particulars and so I can’t give an educated answer specific to this file.

    However, our policy on providing officer ID instructs us that “police officers will not conceal their identity or hesitate to state their PIN (Personal Identification Number) or surname or rank and surname when requested to do so”. And as for what occurred at the front desk, we should be assisting you in obtaining the file number (if there is one) and in getting in touch with the officer that had attended the scene.

    MK, you are welcome to email myself at kdcdukeshire@saanichpolice.ca and I will put you in touch with either the officer that attended the scene or his supervisor, whomever you are most comfortable with. In order for me to find the proper file or police attendance, please provide your name, birthday, date and location of the incident in your email. You will then be able to have a conversation with either officer. The attending officer will be able to answer any questions you may still have and if you are unsatisfied with how the matter was handled the supervisor can review the file to determine if anything further could have been done.

    Hope this helps. I look forward to hearing from you.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  263. 1726
    nicholas, Los angeles

    i am a 15 year old kid and my father works for the los angeles county sheriffs department and i collect patches and coins from all over the country and i was wondering if you guys can add on to my collections

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Nicholas, thanks for writing in and thanks for including us in your collection! It will be our pleasure to mail a patch off to you. I just sent you an email, so once you respond to that we will get that patch in the mail.

    Take care and I hope all is well in LA!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  264. 1725
    Sean, Saanich

    I noticed the victoria police department is making switch from crown victoria cop cars to the new dodge chargers. Im curious if you will switch to the dodge chargers when you order new models as the crown victoria has now been taken out of production.

    The new 2012 ford police interceptor recently announced. Sounds safer and better bet since mechanics are allready familiar with fords. And choice of 265 or 365hp engine would be nice im sure. Apparently mirrors will feature blind spot detection system and there will be backup sensors as well as backup camera. The use of fords sync voice command is supposed to in future allow officers to simply speak out commads for things like radio or sirens or lights as well.

    I think the dodge chargers and too beefy and oriented towards giving off a macho vibe, doesnt scream community policing. Love to hear if your department is swaying one way or the other

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sean, thanks for writing in.

    To answer your question I spoke with our Chief who advised that we are staying with the Crown Victoria. In fact, we have just recently ordered seven new Crown Vics. Apparently, there has been talk for many years that the Crown Victoria may be discontinued but Ford is continuing to produce “fleet vehicle” models such as taxis and police cars. You may have more accurate recent information on the Crown Victoria line but that is where we, the department, stand now.

    All of our interior equipment, ie interior screen, light/siren systems, computer, back seat, window bars etc, are fitted to the Crown Victoria and so when the day comes that the Crown Victoria is no longer an option for us we will be looking for a vehicle that will best transition to these considerations. I sure like the sound of the voice-activated features the 2012 Police Interceptor may offer. The more we have both hands on the wheel the better, especially when responding to an emergency.

    Thanks for your input, Sean. Hope you have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  265. 1724
    MJ, Victoria

    I live in a high-rise strata building in Victoria. All units are owner-occupied (no rentals are allowed). There is one suite that we are concerned about, that of an female owner who moved a boyfriend in with her about a year ago. There have been several incidents with the boyfriend, he won’t tell us his name, he has acted menacingly towards several owners who attempt to talk to the owner. We do know that he drinks to excess and we suspect he may be using illegal drugs. This past week they purchased a second car and he is observed driving it on a regular basis. Is there anything we can do to protect ourselves, or do we just have to wait until an “incident” occurs?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi MJ, thanks for writing in.

    I am sorry to hear that you and your neighbours are experiencing difficulties with this individual. However, outside of the suspicion of possible drug use there doesn’t appear to be anything criminal taking place here. In regards to his “menacing” behaviour, if his behaviour is threatening or abusive enough then the person who has been subject to this behaviour is welcome to report the matter to the police. There may not be enough to go forward with charges but it may merit a discussion between this individual and the police as a preventive measure as well as a means to document with the police his behaviour and the concerns of the residents. In regards to the second car and his driving, if anyone witnesses him drive or about to drive and it appears as though he is under the influence of alcohol or drugs then the police should be called.

    On the strata side of things, I would suggest, if it hasn’t already been done, to bring the matter up with the council and/or property manager. If this individual is causing disturbances in the building then I believe there would be a system in place where an official warning and potential fines could be imposed. Also have a read of Post #1687. In my answer to that question, I provided a couple of links to strata related associations as well as make mention of a column in the Times Columnist called “Condo Smarts”. Both the links and the column may be a good resource to you on this matter.

    Lastly, both on the strata side and the police side, it is important to document all the negative behaviour of this individual as the incidents occur. This history will support any actions the strata council and/or the police may wish to take.

    Good luck, MJ, and I hope this helps.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  266. 1723
    Timothy, Saanich

    In further interest in question 1707, if someone did commit an offence, but was never charged or convicted for it, would that be purged after x period of time or remain indefinately? IE would a record exist on a person 30 years of age where an offence took place when he was 20?

    Yes I am the person in question. I made a bad choice when I was 20, was interviewed by police, but I was not arrested, no charges were ever laid, nor was I given any conditions. I was told to correct my behavior, and beleive me I have.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Timothy, thanks for writing in.

    There are files that would remain on our system for longer than 10 years. The retention date would depend on the nature of the offence. Not knowing the details of the file you refer to I would not be able to tell you whether it is still on the system or not. To find out you are welcome to attend the Saanich Police station at 760 Vernon Av with two pieces of ID, one of which has to be photo, and fill out a Freedom of Information request. On the request you can ask if this file still exists and if it does when is it scheduled to be purged. There is no fee for this service and the usual turn-around is a week to two weeks.

    Sounds like it might be worth your while to submit the request. Even though you know this file is a thing of the past I would imagine it would be a relief to know that the paper trail is as well.

    “As long as the world is turning and spinning, we’re gonna be dizzy and we’re gonna make mistakes.” ~ Mel Brooks

    Have a great night!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  267. 1722
    Tom, SW Saanich

    Re: Post # 1717

    With all due respect, I don’t believe you answered the question.

    Please don’t get me wrong Cst. Dukeshire, I think you do a bang-up (great) job

    and I can only hope that if I get involved in a police incident, that it is with you.

    I didn’t see the ad, but I am curious, why would SPD place such an ad?

    P.S. I am a Chevy Chase fan and appreciate your “Europian Vacation” reference

    in post #1712 regarding ’round-abouts. Fortunately I am/was not that confused.

    -Tom

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tom, good to hear from you again! And thanks very much for your kind words, I really appreciate them.  

    And looking back, you are correct, I didn’t answer that question from Mel as well as I could have. So, to do so, I spoke with a representative from the Saanich Municipal Hall who is involved with this ad campaign. She advised that these ads are to aid the municipality in updating our overall strategic plan which is being researched and reformulated as we speak. To better accomplish this goal, these ads are designed to contribute to community discussion and information sharing with the hopes that this will help point the strategic plan in the right direction for everyone. With this in mind it is my understanding that each ad has and will continue to invite input from the public to help update the strategic plan.

    Hope I did a better job in answering the question this time. Thanks Tom and thanks for your patience, Mel. And I’m glad you enjoyed the Chevy Chase reference. Believe me, I only mentioned it because I thought it was a very funny scene and it was somewhat relevant to the topic of our discussions.

    Have a great night!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  268. 1721
    dan view royal

    I have a 30 foot Motor Home and i need to know the law regarding people that ride in the home portion.Do they have to wear seat belts in the living section when traveling.thank you in advance. dan

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Dan, thanks for writing in.

    Yes, your passengers, even if sitting in the “home portion”, must wear seat belts when the vehicle is being operated on a highway. Section 220(4) of the MVA states, “A person in a motor vehicle being driven or operated on a highway must, if the motor vehicle has properly attached to it a seat belt assembly for the seating position occupied by that person, wear the complete seat belt assembly in a properly adjusted and securely fastened manner.” Section 31.01 of the MVAR states that “trailers, mobile homes or recreational vehicles, and the equipment therein, manufactured on or after October 1, 1972, shall conform in all respects to the standards for trailers, mobile homes or recreational vehicles from time to time made by the Canadian Standards Association…” I spoke with a representative from a local RV dealership who advised that it is factory and safety standard that all motorhomes are equipped with seatbelts for seating designed for use when travelling, including “home portions”.

    Informative links:

    MVAR (Sec’s 31.01 - 32.05, Mobile Homes, Seat Belt Assemblies and Excemptions,  and 36.01 - 36.09, Child Seating, Restraints and Excemptions)

    MVA (Sec 220 Seat Belt Assembly and Use of Seat Belts)

    ICBC (Seat Belts)

    Hope that helps, Dan. Happy camping!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

  269. 1720
    Alex

    Hi my names alex **removed by site administrator** and I live in courtenay BC. I’am planning to move down soon to vic less then a year. i was just wondering how i could apply to be an officer.? and how long is training for. And even though I dont have my Full lisence yet but Iam 19 should I still alpply.

    thank you very much

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Alex, thanks for writing in. I have provided you with a link to our website. Once there, click on “Recruiting” and “New Recruits”. These pages will explain to you in detail the requirements and steps needed to apply. They also provide the phone number and email address to Sgt. Dean Duthie in Staff Development. Dean will be able to tell you better than I when would be the best time for you to apply. Once hired, training at the Justice Institute lasts for approximately 9 months, followed by a one year probationary class of constable.

    Good luck in your endeavours, Alex. Hope to see you soon!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  270. 1719
    Cheryl, Saanich

    I would like some feedback about the use of photos on our publicly accessible church website:
    1) There are some photos of children currently in our Sunday School on the website (no names). My understanding is that from a safety perspective, there should not be any face shots of current children. What is your recommendation about the safe limits re: posting photos?
    2) There are photos of adults from the church on the website. Are there any potential risks of having photos (without names) posted?
    3) At times there is also information posted on the website that include the name, phone number and/or e-mail address of church members - this information is not posted with a photo. Are there any risks related to this?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Cheryl and thank you for your conscientiousness on the matter.

    I put your questions to one of our members in the Family Protection Unit who advised that as long as the parents have given consent for the child’s picture to be on the website then there is no undue risk. Most online offences against children are committed by someone who is already known to the child and family. In answer to your two other questions, more of the same applies. Before posting anyone’s photo or contact information touch base with the individual to ensure it is ok with him or her. Some people may be less comfortable with that kind of publicity than others.

    Any kind of public posting, whether it be a photo or contact info, comes with some degree of risk and it’s also good to remember that once this information is “out there” it is “out there” for good. Parents and individual adults should always keep this in mind.

    Hope that is of some help, Cheryl. Hope you enjoy your day.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  271. 1718
    Rhonda, Peaks Island, ME USA

    My husband, Tom Bohan, lost his black jacket with his black iPhone in the pocket either on Estevan Ave near the Pharmacy or in the coffee shop or downtown at Starbucks on Goverment St. The Saanich Police very kindly opened a file on these missing items. My questions are two: 1) Is it possible to trace the phone even though the service has been canceled through At&T and, if it was found, how might a good samaritan return it to us if he or she doesn’t contact the police? Is there any place else we might call or write or contact in some way? Thank you.
    Rhonda

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Rhonda, sorry to hear that. My first thought is that you should, if you haven’t already, contact AT&T to determine if there is GPS on the phone and if it is activated. Their security section should be able to assist you with that. They should also be able to tell you if there has been any activity on the phone since it was lost, and if there has been then you could provide that information to the police department where the activity has taken place. That department could then follow-up in an attempt to determine who was using the phone. To answer your second question, the only way a good samaritan would be able to return the phone to you without contacting the police would be to access your information, if there is any, on the phone itself or to contact AT&T directly.

    You could contact any of the above locations where the phone and jacket were possibly lost to have ads posted and lastly feel free to contact Margaret in our Property Control office at 250 475 4331 or MGREENWAY@Saanichplice.ca to touch base on whether either item has turned up at our department and for whatever reason hasn’t been associated to your file.

    Hope this helps and I hope a good samaritan comes through!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire 

  272. 1717
    Mel, Westshore

    Recently, Saanich Police put an ad in the Times Colonist
    about their jurisdiction being SAFE. Why was this done?
    There are various crimes and accidents in Saanich as
    well as Victoria and other places on the South Island.
    This ad was placed after the classifieds last month!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mel,

    Yes, crimes and accidents occur in Saanich, just as they do throughout the province. However, Saanich does enjoy a favourable average in regards to crime rates in the province. Based on the 2008 crime rate comparison conducted by the Police Services Division of the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General, Saanich sits at a crime rate of “52″ compared to the provincial average of “76″. These rates are defined by the number of Criminal Code offences (excluding traffic offences) per 1,000 population. I have provided a link to the Police Services site where you can click on “Reports and Services” and then “Police Resources in British Columbia, 2008″ to view crime stats across the province. The Municipality will be running a number of these ads over the next several months advertising the various components and departments of Saanich.

    Thanks for writing in Mel. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  273. 1716
    Mark, Victoria

    Hello, I am a year 2 Criminal Justice Diploma student trying to further my education. I was told today in class you have 3 student opportunities for the upcoming summer season. I was just hoping to get a link to that or maybe you could tell me a little bit about it. Thanks, Mark

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Mark,

    Follow the link to our website where under “Crime Prevention” you will find two links, one to the job posting your are referring to and one to the application. In addition, feel free to contact Ian Gibbs in Crime Prevention at 250 475 4314 who can answer any further questions you may have.

    Good luck in your studies, Mark, and hope to see you this summer!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  274. 1715
    lc, Saanich

    I recently heard of an incident where an inebriated man stole a flourescent tube from the common area of an apartment and proceeded to his apartment on the third floor. His sober roommate was at home. After some comments, the drunk threw the tube off the balcony with the aim of trying to hit a vehicle that was passing on the street below. There appear to be no witnesses as this happened late in the evening/night.

    Can anything be done? Would a police officer speak to one or both of the young men?

    I have not yet reported this incident as I am unsure of whether this actually happened. It was told to me by the sober party who thought it was a joke and the drunk party cannot remember but thinks it likely he would do something like this.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Good morning lc,

    Yes, that is something we would talk to the “inebriated man” about. Taking the flourescent tube is theft and and throwing it off a balcony is mischief and a fairly dangerous mischief at that if he is throwing it at passing cars. However, in regards to the theft portion we would prefer the report to come from the owner or a representative of the owner of the light, ie strata member or building manager, to confirm that the light was in fact taken and from where. Without witnesses and a “victim” (owner of light) it most likely would be difficult to proceed with charges but we would caution the male for his actions and the incident would be documented with us. And if, by chance, the driver of the vehicle made a report at the time of the incident we would be able to link the files and follow up appropriately. 

    Thanks for writing in and enjoy the weekend!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

     

     

  275. 1714
    Johnathan

    My wife and I are considering buying a home in the near future.

    Is it possible to get some sort of list as to what areas of town have problem houses or apartments due to noise complaints and/or drugs?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Johnathan,

    To view crime stats you can go to our website, click on “Media”, then click on “Property Crime Statistics”. Cst. Petra Dornblut, in our Crime Prevention office, maintains current stats on this page pertaining to B&E’s, robberies, theft from autos and theft of autos etc. This page can give you a fair picture of what is happening and where. Petra also asked me to pass on to you that you are welcome to give her a call at 250 475 4346 if you wish to discuss in more detail any of the areas you and your wife are considering.

    Hope that helps and good luck in your search!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  276. 1713
    Sam

    A follow-up to the fog lamp question in post 1710:

    “(4) The operator of a vehicle may use fog lamps instead of headlamps when atmospheric conditions make the use of headlamps disadvatageous”.

    This section simply agrants the operator the legal right to use the fog lamps *in place of* the headlamps should the atmospheric conditions make the use of headlamps disadvatageous.

    It in no way prevents the use of fog lamps being operated in conjunction with the low-beam headlamps in clear weather. The MVA does NOT contain a clause which restricts the use of fog lamps to inclement weather, it simply states that they cannot be used on their own in clear weather.

    Thank you.

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Sam,

    I am glad you are so attentive on this site! Thank you for your correction. I wonder who is learning more from this site, the reader or the writer!

    Sam is correct. I am surprised to learn that you are allowed to operate fog lights when there is no fog. I misinterpreted the regulations and I hope I haven’t steered anyone too far off the path.

    Thanks again, Sam. I really appreciate your input. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  277. 1712
    Tom, SW Saanich

    Now I’m really confused. Re: Post #1700 & 1694

    I thought the vehicle in the round-about always had the right of way, even if it was

    the vehicle to the left. Any by-law numbers you can provide to aid in clarification?

    Thank you,

    Tom

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Tom,

    I am very sorry, I called you “Barry” in my last response. I am mixing up all the “round-about” posts!

    I also apologize that we haven’t been clear enough in our answers and that you are still confused. You are right, the vehicle in the round-about has the right of way. That is what I meant when I said, in Post 1700, that “all incoming traffic must yield to traffic already in the round-about.”

    This is not a bylaw issue. These rules fall under the BC Motor Vehicle Act. In Julie’s response (post 1694), Julie provided a link to an ICBC site which lays it all out nicely and within that link is a link to the BC MVA.

    Hope this all makes sense and thanks for your patience. Not sure if you are a Chevy Chase fan, Tom, but there is a pretty funny scene in “European Vacation” that relates Chevys experience in a round-about in Paris, if I recall correctly. Hope we haven’t misdirected you to that degree!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  278. 1711
    TJ, Richmond BC

    Hello,
    I had the pleasure of meeting and working along with some of the finest members various police forces from all parts of Canada during the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, of which it included some members of the Saanich Police Dept. To keep a memento for the memories of working along with these fine people, was wondering how I could get myself a Saanich Police Pin. Your assistance on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
    Thank you.

    Saanich Police response:

    Hi TJ, thanks for your interest. It must have been an incredible experience being there in person. I’m still buzzing from Sundays game and the entire Olympic event! I’m so proud of our athletes and everyone involved.

    I have responded to you via email explaining how to get hold of a Saanich Police pin. At your convenience, respond and we will get that off to you in the mail.

    Thanks TJ.

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  279. 1710
    Myles, Nanaimo

    Is it illegal to drive without fog lights?

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Myles.

    No, it isn’t illegal to drive without fog lamps. Most vehicles out there aren’t equipped with them. However, it is illegal to drive with them activated if the atmospheric conditions do not call for it. Sec 4.11 of the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations states, “(4) The operator of a vehicle may use fog lamps instead of headlamps when atmospheric conditions make the use of headlamps disadvatageous”. The sections details all the regulations regarding foglamps.

    Thanks for writing in, Myles. Have a great day!

    Response by Cst. Kris Dukeshire

  280. 1709
    Jake

    Hello,

    I understand that I can come into the station and via an FOI, request copies of police reports. I currently live in a home with several suites and one of the tenants constantly has the police called on them. I would like to know why as there are small children occupying the other 2 suites and it has become a safety issue. Am I authorized to request copies of police reports for the past 12 months and what does that cost?

    Thanks!

    Saanich Police Response:

    Hi Jake,

    Yes, you can request copies of Saanich Police reports through the Saanich Police Freedom of